Quality of life and death

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Diva
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Quality of life and death

Post by Diva »

Is it true that he quality of life determines the quality of death?

Any thoughts on the above statement?
kmaherali
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Post by kmaherali »

Hello,

I am not sure what you mean by quality of death. Do you mean the cause of the death or the life after death?

In Islam there is no dichotomy between this life and the hereafter. It is a continuum of eternity. If a person lives a life of total submission, he experiences paradise in this life as much as he would experience it in the hereafter. As a matter of fact, death does not exist. However if a person does not live a life of total submission, he is not prepared for the hereafter and experiences "purifying hellfire" upon death after which he enters paradise.

Some people are purified in this life through trials and tribulations such as deseases etc and upon death they enter paradise. The destiny of life is returning to where we came from i.e., God or paradise. It is a matter of when that happens, whether in this life or hereafter.
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Post by Zahra4 »

As we learn from different Al-Waez, that people do expereince different kinds of deaths. Some people suffer for years and others die without any suffering. According to a Waez that I heard by Al-Waez Babul, he says the manner in which we spend our lives on this earth has a great impact on the manner in which the soul leaves the body.
sofiya
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Re: Quality of life and death

Post by sofiya »

Diva wrote:Is it true that he quality of life determines the quality of death?

Any thoughts on the above statement?

Hai Diva,

The following Ginan came to my mind as to what Kmaherali explained above:


ejee gurnar belee tenee vaatt sohelee shabd pati annaa(n) jeh
jevee te karannee-e jeevddo chhutte
tevee karannee kejee-e sneh..................................4

The one whose helper is the Guide and the Master,
this person's path is smooth and prosperous and he/she
accepts the Word (command) with conviction. The actions by
which the soul gets freed, perform such actions with love.
sofiya
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Post by sofiya »

BTW the verse of the Ginan above is from
SWAAMEE TAMAAREE VAADDEE MAA(N)HE

BY PEER SHAMSH
Diva
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Post by Diva »

Thanks Sofiya and Zahra4 for your input.

Hello Kmaherali,

Thank you very much for your reply. I meant the departing of the soul. Some people die peacefully and some suffer a lot. Am I right in saying that at the time of the death it is the body that suffers and not the soul? Can soul suffer?
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Post by kmaherali »

Diva wrote:Hello Kmaherali,

Thank you very much for your reply. I meant the departing of the soul. Some people die peacefully and some suffer a lot. Am I right in saying that at the time of the death it is the body that suffers and not the soul? Can soul suffer?
Hello Diva,

Those who have gone through the Near Death Experience (NDE) after being resuscitated to life from almost death have said that they were not aware of the impact of pain, i.e., it was blanked out.

James Van Praagh who is a well known for his communication with the spirits of the departed in seance sessions, says that the souls were not aware of the impact of the experience that caused violent deaths. You may want to read his book "Talking to Heaven".
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Post by kmaherali »

God reigns supreme over his servants. He sends guardians to watch over you, and to carry away your soul at the moment of death; these guardians never fail at their task. At death all people are restored to God, their true Lord. Judgment belongs to him, and he is swift in making it.

-Qur'an, Al-An'am, Surah 6:60-62
From "366 Readings From Islam,"
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Post by kmaherali »

The following saying of Prophet Muhammad conveys the notion of the possibility of paradise in this life.

"Those admitted to Paradise shall experience true bliss. Never shall they know want, nor will they suffer old age."

-The Prophet Muhammad, as reported by Abu Hurairah
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