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As far as I know the Imam has approved the text of the Namaz to be used by Ismailis. It is not meant to be used in Jamatkhanas as a Tariqah practice, it is meant to be used as a Shariah practice. Jamatkhana is a place where Tariqah practices are performed. Why don’t I see Ismailis praying the salaa...

Yes we have an Ismaili Namaz in place reflecting the Shia Ismaili principles for those who have the capacity and the need to perform the Shariah practice common to all Muslims. If an Ismaili has the capacity and the need for religious and social reasons to congegate with other Muslims to perform Na...

Ismailis do practice the Shariah and the Tariqah as much as they can given the context in which they live. For example, Ismaili Namaz has been prescribed for the Shariah practice and Dua is prescribed for Tariqah practice. They are complementary First of all, you said there’s a complementary relati...

The Ismaili Tariqah has always held the complementary relationship between the Shariah practices common to all Muslims and the Tariqah practices restricted to the members of the Tariqah. The relative importance of the two types of practices for the Jamat has varied in the course of history. As far ...

It must also be noted that Shi'a Isma'ili theosophers articulated the transcendence and Beyond-Being aspect of the Divine Principle long before it was elucidated by Sunni/Sufi and Twelver/Irfani scholars. And the Neoplatonic and Hindu sages articulated it long before 'Ismaili theosophers'. What's y...

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Etymology is not our concern.

The letters which make the name "Allah" are created and therefore contingent. Therefore, the name "Allah", in reality, cannot truly refer to the Divine Essence or Godhead, but refers to originated and created entities. First of all, ‘Allah’ does not refer to a ‘originated and cr...

if anything id call myself an Agnostic. I didn’t think you were an agnostic because of the fact that “the only sure thing [you] can say is [you] don’t believe in [a] personal, Abrahamic god .” But perhaps you’re an agnostic with respect to deism but not theism? As for my "reason/source for unb...

A Moral Existence Steven Mahone The Chachapoya were a people that flourished in the Peruvian Andes.... In posting that article to prove something of your case, I hope you realize that you’re guilty of what you charge znanwalla with, namely, a form of “relying on someone told me that someone told th...

I am not an atheist. the only sure thing i can say is i dont believe in an personal, abrahamic god AT THIS POINT IN MY LIFE. You must be a deist then. So now what are your reasons for not believing in theism since you’re so sure of your unbelief in it? Its another debate whether objective morality ...

I did not find anyone by the name of "Zena"[/b] in this thread...

My apologies. I meant the user 'sheza'.

At least I have proved that you are not an Ismaili .... you have the audacity to call us "atheist"....you must be a joker ! Znanwalla, Are you mentally challenged? First, I never claimed to be an Ismaili. Second, I never called you an atheist; I didn’t even address your post . I was reply...

We as humans feel so important that we need to have a reason for our existence, we can not accept that it could be accidental. So what? We have reason to believe that (existence is not accidental) and it is not because we (humans) feel important. Do you (atheists) not believe in God because you fee...

Yes SHia Ismailis are Sufis, but not all Sufis are Ismailis… Kmarherali, Sufi scholars don’t even accept you (Ismailis) as orthodox let alone consider you to be practitioners of authentic Tasawwuf . The problem here, as I see it, is that you seem to treat Sufism as if it was independent from orthod...

Different sources from different periods articulate various views.

Who are these different sources? The Ismaili scholars?

Ontologically speaking, the soul of the Prophet Muhammad and the souls of the Shi'a Imams are loci of manifestation (mazahir) of the same Light (nur). Ontologically speaking, the souls of all men and, ultimately, of all things in creation, are loci of manifestion of the same Light. However, that Li...

Binom, This is like asking any muslim to provide proof that the Quran is the Word of Allah, or that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was the the Messenger of Allah, that is without using references to Quran or Hadith. Can you do that? I mean, its ridiculous you are asking this of us. Dear Rizwon, Please fol...

Too bad if you do not have time to read it. If the court judgement does not convince you, then I do not think anything else will. You are not worth the effort. I’m starting to wonder how exactly the court judgment has convinced you. Why aren’t you willing to bring out the relevant passages? If you ...

The court proceedings are for public records and they can be accessed at: http://www.ismaili.net/hajibibi.html I'm not going to read the entirety of the court proceedings and try to analyze it and look for what I want. That would take to long and I don't have the time. Perhaps I can do that someoth...

It appears that you did not read the entire thread. Below is a pertinent excerpt. A STRANGE AND AMAZING FACT HAS BEEN POINTED OUT IN THE BOOK THAT HAZARAT ALI WAS SHRI VISHNU IN HIS TENTH AVTAR, AND ALSO STRANGE AND AMAZING THAT ALL THE PREVIOUS NINE AVTAARS OF SHRI VISHNU WERE IN FACT THOSE OF HAZ...

How are you able to distinquish the true from the false? What is your criterion? The leneal descent and the authority of the Imam was established in the courts of law. What more can one want as a proof? The other internal evidences are only reinforcements. The only thing that was etablished in cour...

Binom's assertion is that the Quran and the Hadith are the only basis to prove Imamat. The Qur'an and hadith are the only real bases for proving the imamat of your Ismaili imam . You have not showed this not to be the case. More information about the case which provides a powerful proof outside the...

arshad1988 wrote: Which madhab was the Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him affiliated with? He was not a Shaf'i, a Hanafi, a Hanbali, a Maliki, a Jaf'ari, etc...he was a Muslim. Who ever said you need to be part of a particular madhab to be considered a true Muslim? A true Muslim, is one that sub...

According to Ismaili interpretation he is. Regardless the Quran by itself is not sufficient for Guidance What is the basis of this interpretation that establishes that your particular imam, the Aga Khan, is this authority? Your response (the story of the Hindu convert) is dealt with below. Regardle...

In addition, the Quran needs to be re-interpreted according to context and hence there needs to be an authoritative basis for it. No Tom Dick and Harry could do it. There needs to be an authoritative basis for it, but that authority need not be your imam. In what manner it has no basis. The Book ca...

First of all let me clarify myself. I am not saying that the Quran is invalid. I do accept it as a final revelation to mankind from God. All I have said is that by itself it is not sufficient for guidance, so it is wrong to say that I am not rooted in the Quran. I’m not saying that you believe the ...

The Imam according to his interpretation of the Quran. Alright. All the same, my questions still remain to be answered. Can you elaborate. In what way it has no basis. The Quran is open to all kinds of interpretations. It is very un-Islamic to say that someone's interpretation has no basis. I am en...

I say: Fine. But, by what criterion, again, have you judged those first hadiths, that apparently set out to prove the Imamah, to be true and not false?

I've put the discussion this way not only in order to follow it more easily but also to make sense of what is being said. Kmaherali wrote: LBC: Yes, but is there a place in the Islamic World for the other religions? AK: Oh, for sure! Islam is a faith that recognises the preceding monotheistic inter...

Kandani wrote: However, Ismaili theology holds two types of Imams - the Permanent Imam (al-imam al-mustaqarr) and the Entrusted Imam (al-imam al-mustwada). There are certain Ismailis (on this website) who hold the belief that the Prophet (saw) has the function of the 'Entrusted Imam'. This belief s...