mazharshah wrote: Just iman on Ali is not sufficient for salvation, there are other duties religious and ethical necessary for Nijaat. My sunni baba according to Bhuj Nirijan BY pIR Sadruddin is;
AAPEY MULLA AAPEY QAZI
AAPEY PARHEY SO AAP NAMAZI. ( Part 24 )
Of course Iman without Farmanbardari is no Iman. All duties are encompassed in the Farmanbardari.
The Part 24 of Buj Nirinjan refers to the state of enlightened person if you consider the whole part given at:
http://www.ismaili.net/granths/bujniran ... 33.html#24
aape mullaa aape kaazhee
aape padde so aap namaazee........................................5
He himself is the priest and He is the judge and He is the prayer leader and He is the performer of prayer.
i.e. he is his own judge, his own prayer leader and he performs his prayes as well - in other words he is Allah himself.
mazharshah wrote:
When I wrote Fana fi real Murshid is fana fi Allah, means I already believe in this notion. My question is fana fi whom, obviously that is Allah. When you are using the preposition FI means you are talking of two different entities merged. A drop merged with ocean does not mean drop is equivalent to ocean. Look at the weight of drop and weight of ocean or depth of drop and ocean. There are thousands of persons claiming that they are fana, are they all walking talking Gods. Do you want me to hold hand of one of such person and say," uncle make me fana!".)
Actually to become fanna means: 'the drop becomes the Ocean'.
There can be many individuals who become the Ocean and hence 'share' in the Ocean-ness.
I have not come across anyone claiming to be fanna. In our Tariqah one is not supposed to say anything about his/her spiritual state according to the Farman of the Imam.
Only the Imam in our tariqah is the recognised fanna in our tariqah, the rest are hidden.
Of course you have to apply your judgement in determining whether one who claims to be fanna is authentic or not.
