Ya Ali Madad;
I wish to make a point of view an observation done by me on many Ismailis n non Ismailis.
Participation is requested from each n all of you without FAIL.
I am not asking one of my simple questions.
my message from will follow after replies from most of you all.
You must have a person to observe your face or a have video recording facility of it.
You have give just one minute of your time with NO external distraction of any kind, phones ,t.v ,honking talking etc.
for one minute close your eyes.( before that have somebody or recorder for your face).
JUST CONCENTRATE ON IMAGE OF GOD/PROPHET YOU PERCEIVE 'SMILING' AT YOU. nothing else.( there is an Ayat I assume on 'FACE OF YOUR LORD SMILING') It is for all people n just for one community.
it should be one minute to imagine your God/prophet smiling at you for full one minute.
after is is done,
I NEED TWO two answer from each one you.
1. what was the observation or recording of your facial expression in that time,close observation.
AND
1.how do/did you personally FEEL after that one minute.
I have got replies from many in person n need also from you all.
YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOOSE only to GAIN from it.
please please reply, as you do not have study any data.
Connect to ALI, An observation
Ya Ali Madad.
Almost 29 members have read the post. I am sure many must have tried it sheepishly.
Please post the answer for the questions asked as it is important,even if you have had imagination shortcomings.
There are almost one billion sitting ducks moving their bodies 5 times a day
to some formless entity.
self experience, analysis N VISIBLE INTELLECT to today's generation is THE ONLY N ONLY KEY. to attract them to become 'ALI ALI' in a progressive steps upward
Shariat will be very soon old fashioned n antique word ,It was used few hundred years back in ismailism.
Almost 29 members have read the post. I am sure many must have tried it sheepishly.
Please post the answer for the questions asked as it is important,even if you have had imagination shortcomings.
There are almost one billion sitting ducks moving their bodies 5 times a day
to some formless entity.
self experience, analysis N VISIBLE INTELLECT to today's generation is THE ONLY N ONLY KEY. to attract them to become 'ALI ALI' in a progressive steps upward
Shariat will be very soon old fashioned n antique word ,It was used few hundred years back in ismailism.
Dear nuseri,
I know you intention and why you asked this question. But, here's my take and it's only me.
These matters are matters of faith. My faith is very much personal to me and it's only between me and my Imam. It's extremely personal, and I don't want to discuss it with anyone else. That's the reason why I am not replying to this question of yours. And I believe other may consider something similar.
However, what I'd like to discuss is the knowledge and information about our Ismaili Doctrine and tariqa and the teachings of our Imams, Hujjats and Dais.
Thanks.
I know you intention and why you asked this question. But, here's my take and it's only me.
These matters are matters of faith. My faith is very much personal to me and it's only between me and my Imam. It's extremely personal, and I don't want to discuss it with anyone else. That's the reason why I am not replying to this question of yours. And I believe other may consider something similar.
However, what I'd like to discuss is the knowledge and information about our Ismaili Doctrine and tariqa and the teachings of our Imams, Hujjats and Dais.
Thanks.
To Agakhani:
As you seem to be an educated person
I have not asked on 'whose' image one visualizes.
I have asked about one's feeling after that one minute n facial expression
observed during that time.
Could you please answer what I am seeking and at this entry level stage no other points of view,imagination,picture, faith,etc.
As you seem to be an educated person
I have not asked on 'whose' image one visualizes.
I have asked about one's feeling after that one minute n facial expression
observed during that time.
Could you please answer what I am seeking and at this entry level stage no other points of view,imagination,picture, faith,etc.
Clear statement. Brother sees MHI as Allah and sends Salwat.agakhani wrote:I did not use the word' Imam 'at all in this topic ,It was God.
This is my and only mine imagination picture I am seeing MHI as a God!!!!(salwat)
Salwat goes like this
"O Allah, let Your Blessings come upon Muhammad and the family of Muhammad, as you have blessed Ibrahim and his family. Truly, You are Praiseworthy and Glorious. Allah, bless Muhammad and the family of Muhammad, as you have blessed Ibrahim and his family. Truly, You are Praiseworthy and Glorious".
He is asking Allah (MHI) to send blessing on Prophet and his family that is MHI.
Here Allah sending blessing on himself!!!!!
To zznoor;Ya Ali Madad:
my first baatin meaning of salvat was made when I joined the forum what it means for us.
Please read that to avoid repetition.
I feel Agakhani n tret being compulsive bloggers posted on this topic what was NOT asked for but tried to make their presence felt,this topic is for expression n feeling of experience,you have also made your presence felt.None of you has done any value addition to the topic.
more than 87% of the whole forum are loaded with these type of postings.
I am assuming for few members as few days are gone by,A line from a hindi film song.
'MERA JEEVAN KORA KAAGAZ KORA HI REHE GAYAA'.
I am requesting once again to share your experience based on precisely on what is asked.
Please note that I am not seeking answers at this primary level any thing related
to faith,belief,imam,glow of light on face.
my first baatin meaning of salvat was made when I joined the forum what it means for us.
Please read that to avoid repetition.
I feel Agakhani n tret being compulsive bloggers posted on this topic what was NOT asked for but tried to make their presence felt,this topic is for expression n feeling of experience,you have also made your presence felt.None of you has done any value addition to the topic.
more than 87% of the whole forum are loaded with these type of postings.
I am assuming for few members as few days are gone by,A line from a hindi film song.
'MERA JEEVAN KORA KAAGAZ KORA HI REHE GAYAA'.
I am requesting once again to share your experience based on precisely on what is asked.
Please note that I am not seeking answers at this primary level any thing related
to faith,belief,imam,glow of light on face.
I feel Agakhani n tret being compulsive bloggers posted on this topic what was NOT asked for but tried to make their presence felt,
Why don't you put what you feel? what is your expression/ imagination/ experience so, we all can know what are you really wants? to me it is a childish question and may be others also thinking that way!!
Ya Ali Madad:
I wish some would have participate.
I thought this act would be simple ,But it was not as souls within persons are from dormant to enlighten stages.
i tried to observe 10-12 personally and many escaped to do it.It was both on Ismailis n non Ismailis.
My basic expectations were.
If a faithful,difficult for faithless persons to imagine God.(they are dust anyway).
The response weRE mix bag n observation was best from Ismailis as they were already at secondary levels n higher for this exercise.
When a person is full concentrating his/her mind to set image of god smiling
to it.
A natural response to any smile is a return smile for human beings.
one can observe that a few second the face of the person turns into faint or heavy smile depending how the soul reacts n order the facial skin n eyes in some cases. At that moment the mind is fixed at image and not ordering to facial muscles.
The SELF felling reply was from persons to nice to great.( few may have lied to me)
n amazing.
I learnt something about iconic image from it.
I asked one middle age christian for it in my office.
he is a devout catholic. I was little worried about him for image.
he started it and after almost 80 seconds his face beaming with smile n happiness and tear a small drop of tear from one of eyes.
we know what would b the face choice of catholics.
he said that he never had image of Jesus being so happy.I told him he is/was always happy but you all created sad image of him. I am mentoring him for next level.
we see to most visible symbol of Christianity of Jesus on cross.
that image is sealed into hearts for most of them.
they say of his supreme sacrifice for humanity n other noble stories of it.
To me an entity SUCH as prophet ( even seen as god by them).
on cross reflects of torture,pain ,sadness n even anger for those who committed it.
It show that tyrant n infidel can have their ways.
I personally feel that this symbol or image may be not best chosen for him.
No wonder that Jesus came as Mohammed
with sword in hand for good cause and ALI ( companion,spiritual/ holy father) by his side in person.
All these spiritual gurus are raking millions on this study n practice like of sri ravi shanker, deepak chopra n many.
Personal experience n feeling(feel great n not just good) free of cost
and bring them closer to ALI at next level can be our game plan.
I advised that person to go on Youtube which he declined.
Please try this on someone you know.It will teach us something from it.
we can make the difference.
Please share your experience,I personally did not try it at my level I do not have close my eyes.
I wish some would have participate.
I thought this act would be simple ,But it was not as souls within persons are from dormant to enlighten stages.
i tried to observe 10-12 personally and many escaped to do it.It was both on Ismailis n non Ismailis.
My basic expectations were.
If a faithful,difficult for faithless persons to imagine God.(they are dust anyway).
The response weRE mix bag n observation was best from Ismailis as they were already at secondary levels n higher for this exercise.
When a person is full concentrating his/her mind to set image of god smiling
to it.
A natural response to any smile is a return smile for human beings.
one can observe that a few second the face of the person turns into faint or heavy smile depending how the soul reacts n order the facial skin n eyes in some cases. At that moment the mind is fixed at image and not ordering to facial muscles.
The SELF felling reply was from persons to nice to great.( few may have lied to me)
n amazing.
I learnt something about iconic image from it.
I asked one middle age christian for it in my office.
he is a devout catholic. I was little worried about him for image.
he started it and after almost 80 seconds his face beaming with smile n happiness and tear a small drop of tear from one of eyes.
we know what would b the face choice of catholics.
he said that he never had image of Jesus being so happy.I told him he is/was always happy but you all created sad image of him. I am mentoring him for next level.
we see to most visible symbol of Christianity of Jesus on cross.
that image is sealed into hearts for most of them.
they say of his supreme sacrifice for humanity n other noble stories of it.
To me an entity SUCH as prophet ( even seen as god by them).
on cross reflects of torture,pain ,sadness n even anger for those who committed it.
It show that tyrant n infidel can have their ways.
I personally feel that this symbol or image may be not best chosen for him.
No wonder that Jesus came as Mohammed
with sword in hand for good cause and ALI ( companion,spiritual/ holy father) by his side in person.
All these spiritual gurus are raking millions on this study n practice like of sri ravi shanker, deepak chopra n many.
Personal experience n feeling(feel great n not just good) free of cost
and bring them closer to ALI at next level can be our game plan.
I advised that person to go on Youtube which he declined.
Please try this on someone you know.It will teach us something from it.
we can make the difference.
Please share your experience,I personally did not try it at my level I do not have close my eyes.