stage of baqabillah

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mAli1
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stage of baqabillah

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yaa ali Madad, i know the meaning of fanafillah. but just came across the the term "baqabillah" if anyone can share some knowledge on this concept.
agakhani
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permanence in Allah

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Baqabillah is a stage of permanence in Allah, permanence by Allah. The concept of Fanafillah and Baqabillah are very close and very popular in sufisam sect.
mAli1
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Post by mAli1 »

thanks for your reply, but i thaught fanafillah is the highest. "asal makan" and once a soul acheives that stage, there is nothing left but oneness. and when you say "baqabillah" is close to "fannahfillah" then, in what way? if you could please explain more. thanks.
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Post by kmaherali »

Fana is a temporary or momentary experience of oneness. Baqa on the other hand is more permanent. The experience of fana is integrated into daily experience and remains a permanent state of being in God even during the mundane worldly experience.
hungama25
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Post by hungama25 »

the purified soul achieves baqabillah [eternal love of allah] throught fana fillah [absorption in god], since god is invisible , it is through love alone that a soul can become one with god


2:165 (Y. Ali) Yet there are men who take (for worship) others besides Allah, as equal (with Allah.: They love them as they should love Allah. But those of Faith are overflowing in their love for Allah. If only the unrighteous could see, behold, they would see the penalty: that to Allah belongs all power, and Allah will strongly enforce the penalty.


our holy prophet[saw] said : Know carefully, there is a special part in the human body called "qalb"[soul] . If that is pure the whole body remains pure , if that is impure then the whole body becomes impure
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Post by AlwaizaRashida »

yam&nbsp;&nbsp; fana fillah n baqa billah&nbsp; Fana means khatum ho jana and baqa means qaim rehna<BR>apni zaat me fana ho ker khuda ki zaat me zinda hona<BR>hadith-e-kudse : ager ik momin paakiza zindegi beser kerta hai to us ki aankh me bunjata hu jise wo dekhta hai,us k kaan me bun jata hu jise wo sunta hai---Hath---kaam kerta hai,zabaan ----bolta hai n so o&shy;n---insaan ka her amel khuda ka amel bun ja ta hai<BR>As ISM said in his Farman mubarak: hum jeha dekhte hai waha ruh dost ko dekhte hai lekin tum jub insan ko dekhte ho to tumhe aankh,kaan naak muh dekhai deta hai ruh dekhai nehe deta. tum ruh ko dekhne ki koshish kero
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