Bible & Aly translated = The Most High

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Bible & Aly translated = The Most High

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I was looking through the Bible to see if "The Most High" is mentioned and here are my findings: 60 places in the Bible where clearly Aly (meaning The Most High) is mentioned



Genesis 14:18
Then Melchizedek king of Salem [ 14:18 That is, Jerusalem ] brought out bread and wine. He was priest of God Most High,
(Whole Chapter: Genesis 14 In context: Genesis 14:17-19)


Genesis 14:19
and he blessed Abram, saying, "Blessed be Abram by God Most High, Creator [ 14:19 Or [ Possessor ] ; also in verse 22 ] of heaven and earth.
(Whole Chapter: Genesis 14 In context: Genesis 14:18-20)


Genesis 14:20
And blessed be [ 14:20 Or [ And praise be to ] ] God Most High, who delivered your enemies into your hand." Then Abram gave him a tenth of everything.
(Whole Chapter: Genesis 14 In context: Genesis 14:19-21)

DASOND IS EVEN MENTIONED HERE. IT IS TO BE GIVEN TO YA ALY

Genesis 14:22
But Abram said to the king of Sodom, "I have raised my hand to the LORD , God Most High, Creator of heaven and earth, and have taken an oath
(Whole Chapter: Genesis 14 In context: Genesis 14:21-23)

Imam is the cause of creation. This world could not exist without Imam and if Imam desires, the world would disintegrate in a moment. (Mowlana Sultan Mohamed Shah Madagascar 1946)


Numbers 24:16
the oracle of one who hears the words of God, who has knowledge from the Most High, who sees a vision from the Almighty, who falls prostrate, and whose eyes are opened:
(Whole Chapter: Numbers 24 In context: Numbers 24:15-17)


Deuteronomy 32:8
When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance, when he divided all mankind, he set up boundaries for the peoples according to the number of the sons of Israel. [ 32:8 Masoretic Text; Dead Sea Scrolls (see also Septuagint) [ sons of God ] ]
(Whole Chapter: Deuteronomy 32 In context: Deuteronomy 32:7-9)


2 Samuel 22:14
The LORD thundered from heaven; the voice of the Most High resounded.
(Whole Chapter: 2 Samuel 22 In context: 2 Samuel 22:13-15)

"Aad thaki ek suun nipaya, suun ma thi shabd nipaya, jugeshwara..."


2 Samuel 23:1
These are the last words of David: "The oracle of David son of Jesse, the oracle of the man exalted by the Most High, the man anointed by the God of Jacob, Israel's singer of songs [ 23:1 Or [ Israel's beloved singer ] ] :
(Whole Chapter: 2 Samuel 23 In context: 2 Samuel 23:1-2)




Psalm 7:8
let the LORD judge the peoples. Judge me, O LORD , according to my righteousness, according to my integrity, O Most High.
(Whole Chapter: Psalm 7 In context: Psalm 7:7-9)

Haq tu Pak tu Badshah, Mehraban bhi ya Aly tu hi tu......
......Awwal aakhar kazi tu hi tu"


Psalm 7:10
My shield [ 7:10 Or [ sovereign ] ] is God Most High, who saves the upright in heart.
(Whole Chapter: Psalm 7 In context: Psalm 7:9-11)


Psalm 7:17
I will give thanks to the LORD because of his righteousness and will sing praise to the name of the LORD Most High.
(Whole Chapter: Psalm 7 In context: Psalm 7:16-18)


Psalm 9:2
I will be glad and rejoice in you; I will sing praise to your name, O Most High.
(Whole Chapter: Psalm 9 In context: Psalm 9:1-3)


Psalm 18:13
The LORD thundered from heaven; the voice of the Most High resounded. [ 18:13 Some Hebrew manuscripts and Septuagint (see also 2 Samuel 22:14); most Hebrew manuscripts [ resounded, / amid hailstones and bolts of lightning ] ]
(Whole Chapter: Psalm 18 In context: Psalm 18:12-14)


Psalm 21:7
For the king trusts in the LORD ; through the unfailing love of the Most High he will not be shaken.
(Whole Chapter: Psalm 21 In context: Psalm 21:6-8)


Psalm 46:4
There is a river whose streams make glad the city of God, the holy place where the Most High dwells.
(Whole Chapter: Psalm 46 In context: Psalm 46:3-5)


Psalm 47:2
How awesome is the LORD Most High, the great King over all the earth!
(Whole Chapter: Psalm 47 In context: Psalm 47:1-3)


Psalm 50:14
Sacrifice thank offerings to God, fulfill your vows to the Most High,
(Whole Chapter: Psalm 50 In context: Psalm 50:13-15)


Psalm 57:2
I cry out to God Most High, to God, who fulfills {his purpose} for me.
(Whole Chapter: Psalm 57 In context: Psalm 57:1-3)


Psalm 62:7
My salvation and my honor depend on God [ 62:7 Or [ / God Most High is my salvation and my honor ] ] ; he is my mighty rock, my refuge.
(Whole Chapter: Psalm 62 In context: Psalm 62:6-8)

Imam is the Resurrector. He is the Lord of beings. He is the Lord which is the act of being absolute. He excludes all existential determinations because He transcends all of them. He opens the door of His mercy and from the Light of his knowledge, He makes everything seeing, listening and talking for eternity... (Mowlana Ala’zikrihis Salaam, 8/08/1164 at Alamut. Quoted page 144 of H.Corbin, “Histoire de la philosophie islamique:, Paris 1964.)


Psalm 73:11
They say, "How can God know? Does the Most High have knowledge?"
(Whole Chapter: Psalm 73 In context: Psalm 73:10-12)


Psalm 77:10
Then I thought, "To this I will appeal: the years of the right hand of the Most High."
(Whole Chapter: Psalm 77 In context: Psalm 77:9-11)


Psalm 78:17
But they continued to sin against him, rebelling in the desert against the Most High.
(Whole Chapter: Psalm 78 In context: Psalm 78:16-18)


Psalm 78:35
They remembered that God was their Rock, that God Most High was their Redeemer.
(Whole Chapter: Psalm 78 In context: Psalm 78:34-36)



Psalm 78:56
But they put God to the test and rebelled against the Most High; they did not keep his statutes.
(Whole Chapter: Psalm 78 In context: Psalm 78:55-57)


Psalm 82:6
"I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.'
(Whole Chapter: Psalm 82 In context: Psalm 82:5-7)


"My Beloved Spiritual Children" Mowlana Shah Karim Al-Husayni.

Psalm 83:18
Let them know that you, whose name is the LORD - that you alone are the Most High over all the earth.
(Whole Chapter: Psalm 83 In context: Psalm 83:17-19)

He who is above all else, he who is above this world, he who is above time, he who is above the human mind. (Mowlana Shah Karim, Baitul Khyal, Montreal 15/08/1992)

Psalm 87:5
Indeed, of Zion it will be said, "This one and that one were born in her, and the Most High himself will establish her."
(Whole Chapter: Psalm 87 In context: Psalm 87:4-6)


Psalm 91:1
He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty. [ 91:1 Hebrew [ Shaddai ] ]
(Whole Chapter: Psalm 91 In context: Psalm 91:1-2)

"............abara sharan tamare"


Psalm 91:9
If you make the Most High your dwelling- even the LORD , who is my refuge-
(Whole Chapter: Psalm 91 In context: Psalm 91:8-10)


Psalm 92:1
It is good to praise the LORD and make music to your name, O Most High,
(Whole Chapter: Psalm 92 In context: Psalm 92:1-2)


Psalm 97:9
For you, O LORD , are the Most High over all the earth; you are exalted far above all gods.
(Whole Chapter: Psalm 97 In context: Psalm 97:8-10)


Psalm 107:11
for they had rebelled against the words of God and despised the counsel of the Most High.
(Whole Chapter: Psalm 107 In context: Psalm 107:10-12)


Isaiah 14:14
I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High."
(Whole Chapter: Isaiah 14 In context: Isaiah 14:13-15)

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Lamentations 3:35
to deny a man his rights before the Most High,
(Whole Chapter: Lamentations 3 In context: Lamentations 3:34-36)


Lamentations 3:38
Is it not from the mouth of the Most High that both calamities and good things come?
(Whole Chapter: Lamentations 3 In context: Lamentations 3:37-39)

"Sukh aur dukh doe Hazrate likhiya re piya, to dosh kisi ku na dije re mehraban mere, saheb mere, daya vant mere, ya shah tuj vina so din javege kaise piya jee"

Daniel 3:26
Nebuchadnezzar then approached the opening of the blazing furnace and shouted, "Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, servants of the Most High God, come out! Come here!" So Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego came out of the fire,
(Whole Chapter: Daniel 3 In context: Daniel 3:25-27)


Daniel 4:2
It is my pleasure to tell you about the miraculous signs and wonders that the Most High God has performed for me.
(Whole Chapter: Daniel 4 In context: Daniel 4:1-3)


Daniel 4:17
" 'The decision is announced by messengers, the holy ones declare the verdict, so that the living may know that the Most High is sovereign over the kingdoms of men and gives them to anyone he wishes and sets over them the lowliest of men.'
(Whole Chapter: Daniel 4 In context: Daniel 4:16-18)


Daniel 4:24
"This is the interpretation, O king, and this is the decree the Most High has issued against my lord the king:
(Whole Chapter: Daniel 4 In context: Daniel 4:23-25)


Daniel 4:25
You will be driven away from people and will live with the wild animals; you will eat grass like cattle and be drenched with the dew of heaven. Seven times will pass by for you until you acknowledge that the Most High is sovereign over the kingdoms of men and gives them to anyone he wishes.
(Whole Chapter: Daniel 4 In context: Daniel 4:24-26)

"Jise re bhave taku daet hai saheb hai dil dariya"


Daniel 4:32
You will be driven away from people and will live with the wild animals; you will eat grass like cattle. Seven times will pass by for you until you acknowledge that the Most High is sovereign over the kingdoms of men and gives them to anyone he wishes."
(Whole Chapter: Daniel 4 In context: Daniel 4:31-33)

"Ise veda mahe jo tu bhule jayesi to bahot khayesi fera re bhai..."


Daniel 4:34
At the end of that time, I, Nebuchadnezzar, raised my eyes toward heaven, and my sanity was restored. Then I praised the Most High; I honored and glorified him who lives forever. His dominion is an eternal dominion; his kingdom endures from generation to generation.
(Whole Chapter: Daniel 4 In context: Daniel 4:33-35)

We the Imams in descent from Imam Hussein, are present until today and We shall remain until the Qiyamat and even after the Qiyamat... (Mowlana Aga Ali Shah, 2nd day of Magsar soudh 1874 A.D.)

Daniel 5:18
"O king, the Most High God gave your father Nebuchadnezzar sovereignty and greatness and glory and splendor.
(Whole Chapter: Daniel 5 In context: Daniel 5:17-19)


Daniel 5:21
He was driven away from people and given the mind of an animal; he lived with the wild donkeys and ate grass like cattle; and his body was drenched with the dew of heaven, until he acknowledged that the Most High God is sovereign over the kingdoms of men and sets over them anyone he wishes.
(Whole Chapter: Daniel 5 In context: Daniel 5:20-22)


Daniel 7:18
But the saints of the Most High will receive the kingdom and will possess it forever-yes, for ever and ever.'
(Whole Chapter: Daniel 7 In context: Daniel 7:17-19)

"Eji kheer ne khand, grath, amarat, bhojan veera, sant tane mukhe daiya o jeere bhaiya"


Daniel 7:22
until the Ancient of Days came and pronounced judgment in favor of the saints of the Most High, and the time came when they possessed the kingdom.
(Whole Chapter: Daniel 7 In context: Daniel 7:21-23)


Daniel 7:25
He will speak against the Most High and oppress his saints and try to change the set times and the laws. The saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and half a time. [ 7:25 Or [ for a year, two years and half a year ] ]
(Whole Chapter: Daniel 7 In context: Daniel 7:24-26)



Daniel 7:27
Then the sovereignty, power and greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven will be handed over to the saints, the people of the Most High. His kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom, and all rulers will worship and obey him.'
(Whole Chapter: Daniel 7 In context: Daniel 7:26-28)


Hosea 7:16
They do not turn to the Most High; they are like a faulty bow. Their leaders will fall by the sword because of their insolent words. For this they will be ridiculed in the land of Egypt.
(Whole Chapter: Hosea 7 In context: Hosea 7:15-17)


Hosea 11:7
My people are determined to turn from me. Even if they call to the Most High, he will by no means exalt them.
(Whole Chapter: Hosea 11 In context: Hosea 11:6-8)


Mark 5:7
He shouted at the top of his voice, "What do you want with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? Swear to God that you won't torture me!"
(Whole Chapter: Mark 5 In context: Mark 5:6-8)

"My Beloved Spiritual Children" 49 Imam


Luke 1:32
He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David,
(Whole Chapter: Luke 1 In context: Luke 1:31-33)


Throne of David=Imammat in my opinion


Luke 1:35
The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called[ 1:35 Or So the child to be born will be called holy,] the Son of God.
(Whole Chapter: Luke 1 In context: Luke 1:34-36)


Luke 1:76
And you, my child, will be called a prophet of the Most High; for you will go on before the Lord to prepare the way for him,
(Whole Chapter: Luke 1 In context: Luke 1:75-77)


Luke 6:35
But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked.
(Whole Chapter: Luke 6 In context: Luke 6:34-36)


Luke 8:28
When he saw Jesus, he cried out and fell at his feet, shouting at the top of his voice, "What do you want with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beg you, don't torture me!"
(Whole Chapter: Luke 8 In context: Luke 8:27-29)


Acts 7:48
"However, the Most High does not live in houses made by men. As the prophet says:
(Whole Chapter: Acts 7 In context: Acts 7:47-49)


Acts 16:17
This girl followed Paul and the rest of us, shouting, "These men are servants of the Most High God, who are telling you the way to be saved."
(Whole Chapter: Acts 16 In context: Acts 16:16-18)


Hebrews 7:1
This Melchizedek was king of Salem and priest of God Most High. He met Abraham returning from the defeat of the kings and blessed him,
(Whole Chapter: Hebrews 7 In context: Hebrews 7:1-2)
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Post by yasin »

:) I have read that when the person who was crucified o&shy;n the cross<BR>we muslims do not believe that Issa nabi was that person<BR>was saying elia elia elia<BR>May be was calling o&shy;n to Ali??
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Ya Ali Madad
thanks shamshu
According to Bahadur Ali missionary Hazrat Ali said that His name in Torah [torait] is Aeliya,in Bible it is Allee and in Quran is Aliulazeem,

The priest of St paul church London Mr William A Herold wrote a book ,A note book on old and new testaments of Bible.This book has 2 volumes.on page number 427 he writes that "In the oldest and present language of Hebrew the word Allee or Alia is not in the meaning of God or Allah but this word is showing that in the next or the last time of this world any one will come nominated Allee or Aliya.
According to Noor-e-mubin also the name of Hazrat Ali appears in Bible.
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Post by atlantanismaili »

THE MOST HIGH DOES NOT MEAN ALY IT MEANS GOD
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Post by star_munir »

THE WORD ALI MEANS MOST HIGH AND INFACT HE IS THE MOST HIGH.
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ALY IS ONE OF THE 99 NAMES OF ALLAH

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ALY IS ONE OF THE 99 NAMES OF ALLAH

SO YOU ARE RIGHT ATLANTAISMAILI ALY IS ALLAH WHO IS THE MOST HIGH

NOW IF YOU ARE THINKING OF HAZRAT ALY WHO LIVED 1400 YEARS AGO THEN HE WAS THE MANIFEST NOOR OF ALLAH.

MAZHAR E ALLAH

AGAIN LOOK WITH THE EYE OF YOUR HEART NOT YOU PHYSICAL EYE THAT ONLY SEES THE BODY.

Shams
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Post by aminL »

What you have to remember about the Bible is that the Bibles which we read today, the Gospels by Mathew, Luke, Mark, and John are totally not true. Let me explain to you why. Jesus himself first off spoke Aramic (the language) when the Gospels were revealed they were in Greek. Another thing, none of the Gospels EVER talked about the divinity of Jesus except the Gospel by John, if you would like to read the TRUE Bibel, then get your hands on the Gospel by St. Barnibus. This Gospel can only be found in some parts of the western world but it is very common in Pakistan becuase it talks about the coming of Prophet Muhammad. This Gospel was not included in the Bible it is somewhere in the archives of the Pope and it does not make scence that this Gospel is not introduced in the Bible because Jesus himself said that in heaven Barnibus would be beside him. So get your hand on the Gospel by St. Barnibus. PM or Email if you wish to discuss this furter
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Do you mean to say that Gospel of St.Barnibus is accurate or exact others are completly incorrect????
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Post by aminL »

I mean to say that the Gospel by St. Barnibus is A LOT more exact then the other Gospels. Personally, I would rather read a Gospel by someone who Jesus himself said would be next to him in heaven then anyone else.
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