Ya Ali Madad and Salam
Somebody told me today that December 21, 2012 will be the end of the world. I asked them that how can they prove it to me, then they gave me all these videos which is on YouTube based on the End of the DAY according to their belief.
I would like to see the opinion of my Jamat about these videos and what do they think about it, so will this happen or it is fault.
Please Check these Videos for more information:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VXa82Au ... annel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6wI3Pbo ... annel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAtgPaggeTM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11iCmzGnOI8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjjrStDx ... annel_page
"December 21, 2012"
Re: "December 21, 2012"
No, it is not the end of the world on 21 December 2012.
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From_Alamut
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Re: "December 21, 2012"
Thank you for your answer, I really appreciate it. These people have already told earlier that so many things will happen, but none of them happened. I have my next question, why do these people believe in the December 21, 2012, I mean those non-Islamic religion, astronomer and scientific that it will be the end of the DAY?TheMaw wrote:No, it is not the end of the world on 21 December 2012.
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Mesoamerican calendar comes to the end of an cycle on that date.
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In past also, many times people used to spread rumours that on this particular date our world will come to an end but nothing happened on that day.
Whatever is created will certainly end one day but Earth will not come to end so soon. There are predictions of the events that will happen before this, in holy scriptures of different religions. Lot of information is given in Ginans and hadiths.
Whatever is created will certainly end one day but Earth will not come to end so soon. There are predictions of the events that will happen before this, in holy scriptures of different religions. Lot of information is given in Ginans and hadiths.
I agree with Star_Munir that there were too many predictions in past about the end of the earth, the last such prediction I heard was end of the millenium year 3/31/2000 and before that in year 1995( if I not forgeting the year), when around more than 100 orthodox religions sect beleivers predicted that the end of the earth coming this year therefore they all committed suicide in one place in California. This kind prediction we hear from every countries and we also see that nothing happen. So do not worry.
Some people fall into these paranoid, delusional states, and are convinced that all these familiar end-times scenarios will take place. To them, they actually believe it, i'm sure, and they are able to convince many others of the same. But, really, ask yourself - how silly is it? 2012, pole shifts, major calamities, extraterrestrials, the anti-christ, etc. Go off into the desert and wait for the aliens to pick you up. Of course, nothing happens. In a couple of years, more predictions are made, more people are duped. Life goes on.
I personally don't believe in any "end times" occurences. And as heretical as it might seem to some (not many no this site I will wager), I discount the Revelation of St. John entirely. Of course, its just my belief... I could be wrong.
I personally don't believe in any "end times" occurences. And as heretical as it might seem to some (not many no this site I will wager), I discount the Revelation of St. John entirely. Of course, its just my belief... I could be wrong.
brother it is only allah[swt] who knows when and how the end is gonna be like
"They ask thee about the (final) Hour - when will be its appointed time? Say: 'The knowledge thereof is with my Lord (alone): None but He can reveal as to when it will occur. Heavy were its burden through the heavens and the earth. Only, all of a sudden will it come to you.' They ask thee as if thou Wert eager in search thereof: Say: 'The knowledge thereof is with God (alone), but most men know not.' (The Noble Quran, 7:187)"
"They say: 'When will this promise come to pass, if ye are telling the truth?' If only the Unbelievers knew (the time) when they will not be able to ward off the fire from their faces, nor yet from their backs, and (when) no help can reach them! Nay, it may come to them all of a sudden and confound them: no power will they have then to avert it, nor will they (then) get respite. (The Noble Quran, 21:38-40)"
"Verily the knowledge of the Hour is with God (alone). It is He Who sends down rain, and He Who knows what is in the wombs. Nor does any one know what it is that he will earn on the morrow: Nor does any one know in what land he is to die. Verily with God is full knowledge and He is acquainted (with all things). (The Noble Quran, 31:34)"
"Men ask thee concerning the Hour: Say, 'The knowledge thereof is with God (alone)': and what will make thee understand?- perchance the Hour is nigh! (The Noble Quran, 33:63)"
"The Unbelievers say, 'Never to us will come the Hour': Say, 'Nay! but most surely, by my Lord, it will come upon you;- by Him Who knows the unseen,- from Whom is not hidden the least little atom in the heavens or on earth: Nor is there anything less than that, or greater, but is in the Record Perspicuous:' (The Noble Quran, 34:3)"
"And blessed is He to Whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all between them: with Him is the Knowledge of the Hour (of Judgment): and to Him shall ye be brought back. (The Noble Quran, 43:85)"
"Say: 'I know not whether the (Punishment) which ye are promised is near, or whether my Lord will appoint for it a distant term. (The Noble Quran, 72:25)"
"They ask thee about the (final) Hour - when will be its appointed time? Say: 'The knowledge thereof is with my Lord (alone): None but He can reveal as to when it will occur. Heavy were its burden through the heavens and the earth. Only, all of a sudden will it come to you.' They ask thee as if thou Wert eager in search thereof: Say: 'The knowledge thereof is with God (alone), but most men know not.' (The Noble Quran, 7:187)"
"They say: 'When will this promise come to pass, if ye are telling the truth?' If only the Unbelievers knew (the time) when they will not be able to ward off the fire from their faces, nor yet from their backs, and (when) no help can reach them! Nay, it may come to them all of a sudden and confound them: no power will they have then to avert it, nor will they (then) get respite. (The Noble Quran, 21:38-40)"
"Verily the knowledge of the Hour is with God (alone). It is He Who sends down rain, and He Who knows what is in the wombs. Nor does any one know what it is that he will earn on the morrow: Nor does any one know in what land he is to die. Verily with God is full knowledge and He is acquainted (with all things). (The Noble Quran, 31:34)"
"Men ask thee concerning the Hour: Say, 'The knowledge thereof is with God (alone)': and what will make thee understand?- perchance the Hour is nigh! (The Noble Quran, 33:63)"
"The Unbelievers say, 'Never to us will come the Hour': Say, 'Nay! but most surely, by my Lord, it will come upon you;- by Him Who knows the unseen,- from Whom is not hidden the least little atom in the heavens or on earth: Nor is there anything less than that, or greater, but is in the Record Perspicuous:' (The Noble Quran, 34:3)"
"And blessed is He to Whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all between them: with Him is the Knowledge of the Hour (of Judgment): and to Him shall ye be brought back. (The Noble Quran, 43:85)"
"Say: 'I know not whether the (Punishment) which ye are promised is near, or whether my Lord will appoint for it a distant term. (The Noble Quran, 72:25)"
I doubt anything will happen, but when someone tell you the end is coming, it seems safer to be prepared. I was young when the whole y2k scare happened, and so many people were so certain it would happen, or that something would happen, but obviously nothing happened.
Prhedst, I disagree with your notion that these people are paranoid and delusional because they're believing that the end may come based upon a faith that is quite old. So calling them delusional on an Ismaili forum seems quite foolish considering you can't prove religion you just embrace a certain faith or none at all. And this is based off the mayan calendar coming to an end, not some arbitrary person making claims.
Prhedst, I disagree with your notion that these people are paranoid and delusional because they're believing that the end may come based upon a faith that is quite old. So calling them delusional on an Ismaili forum seems quite foolish considering you can't prove religion you just embrace a certain faith or none at all. And this is based off the mayan calendar coming to an end, not some arbitrary person making claims.
A1337, let me clarify what I mean.
I am certainly not saying I don`t believe in judgement day, but not in this apocalyptic sense, which in my mind is really a vision of hell. On the other hand, I think its valid to say that, at least in one sense, every day is judgement day. It is here, constant and unending. All hearts are open and all desires are known to the mind of God. To clear up what I said, I`m not criticizing faith, but I am skeptical of apocalyptic prophecies and think the two ought to be distinguished.
Look, every faith has these stories (the four horsemen, the return of the 12th imam, etc.) And notice how cults all tend to proliferate around them, with brainwashed followers proselytizing about the "ìmminent endtimes." I`m sure there has been several in the last year alone. Many of these groups even end up commiting suicide (Jim Jones, Hale Bopp...) Before that happens however, there is often a megalomaniac leader who ends up gaining all sorts of money, power, possesions and sexual favours from his followers. And often these survivors require months of de-programming from experts to become normal again. Now you`re going to tell me that these people are not paranoid or delusional? Well, its your call. I would simply ask you to walk into any psychiatric ward that has run out of anti-psychotic drugs. You will be sure to meet scores of individuals with these messianic delusions of grandeur prophesizing all sorts of negative scenarios. You will also meet at least two or three Jesus Christs, plus a Napoleon and perhaps Queen Elizabeth I.
I am certainly not saying I don`t believe in judgement day, but not in this apocalyptic sense, which in my mind is really a vision of hell. On the other hand, I think its valid to say that, at least in one sense, every day is judgement day. It is here, constant and unending. All hearts are open and all desires are known to the mind of God. To clear up what I said, I`m not criticizing faith, but I am skeptical of apocalyptic prophecies and think the two ought to be distinguished.
Look, every faith has these stories (the four horsemen, the return of the 12th imam, etc.) And notice how cults all tend to proliferate around them, with brainwashed followers proselytizing about the "ìmminent endtimes." I`m sure there has been several in the last year alone. Many of these groups even end up commiting suicide (Jim Jones, Hale Bopp...) Before that happens however, there is often a megalomaniac leader who ends up gaining all sorts of money, power, possesions and sexual favours from his followers. And often these survivors require months of de-programming from experts to become normal again. Now you`re going to tell me that these people are not paranoid or delusional? Well, its your call. I would simply ask you to walk into any psychiatric ward that has run out of anti-psychotic drugs. You will be sure to meet scores of individuals with these messianic delusions of grandeur prophesizing all sorts of negative scenarios. You will also meet at least two or three Jesus Christs, plus a Napoleon and perhaps Queen Elizabeth I.