IMPORTANCE OF THE TIME 4AM TO 5AM

[danu]

I WANT TO SHARE A GOOD THING WITH ALL OF YOU ID THAT OF IMPORTANCE OF THE TIME OF 4AM TO 5AM
I'VE HEARED IN THE WAZ OF KAMMALLUDIN MISSIONAY THAT PEOPLE AGIN AND AGAIN ASK IMAM THAT THEY CAN'T DO THE IBBADAT IN THAT TIME THET ARE SO TIRED CAN WE CAHNGED THIS TIME
THE ANSWER THAT I WANT TO GIVE IS THAT AT THAT TIME RAYS FROM OSSCLATORY WORLD (ALAM-E-ARWA) COME TO OUR WORLD(EARTH) AND EFFECT ON THEOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE CONSTRATING (IN RELIGIOUS TERM WE CAN SAY THAT DOING IBBADAT) EFFECT ON THEM AND THE EFFECT OF THOSE ARE VERY USEFUL FOR US IN OUR SPIRITUAL WORLD AS WELL AS IN THE PHYSICAL WORLD
THERE IS A HOSPITAL IN THE INDIA I DON'T KNOW THE NAME IN THIS HOSPITAL THE PAITENTS DO THE EXCERCISE IN THE TIME OF 4AM TO6AM

[shamsu]

what the Imam says is what is more important than anything else.

As Ismailies if our Imam told us to bang on drums from 4-5am then that will be the highest Ibadaat for us.

The definition of Ibadaat is Farmanbardari.

[alinizar313]

Shabaash Shamsu for your reply. Anyhow I suggest Danu to study Farman regarding this. Read baitul khayal farman of Mowlana Hazar Imam in which Imam explained the reason for that rather than rely on Missionary because later can do mistake but Imam never. As shamsu say farman is farman but we never say Aameen and asking questions so Imam has to answer. Shame on us. Imam says " Amaiy Raat kahiyai tau raat ane divus kahiye tau divus parn Imam ni aql wachai tamaari aql doravanu kaayn kanm nathi". If we say day, it's day; if we say night, it's night but there is no need of put your aql.

[alinizar313]

Shabaash Shamsu for your reply. Anyhow I suggest Danu to study Farman regarding this. Read baitul khayal farman of Mowlana Hazar Imam in which Imam explained the reason for that rather than rely on Missionary because later can do mistake but Imam never. As shamsu say farman is farman but we never say Aameen and asking questions so Imam has to answer. Shame on us. Imam says " Amaiy Raat kahiyai tau raat ane divus kahiye tau divus parn Imam ni aql wachai tamaari aql doravanu kaayn kanm nathi". If we say day, it's day; if we say night, it's night but there is no need of put your aql.

Be humble, honest and generous.

[Admin]

I was just looking at the stats on this web site and I know most of the visitors come from USA/Canada and the lowest traffic is between 4 and 5. Coincidence? Nope, the same ration goes with the non-ismaili internet users of our Internet provider from what he told me.

Umed
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[star_munir]

It is right that we have to follow what Imam says because Imam Knows every thing and our benefit is to follow all the Farmans of Imam.
I think danu actually wanted to share one benefit of that that cosmic rays comes at that Noorani time which has a very good effect and is very useful and also due to the effect of it we can meditate with more concentration. This may not be the only reason of having bandagi at that time but this is one advantage as we know about cosmic rays now but bandagi at 4Am to 5Am is not new and Imam knows better than any one else.

[kmaherali]

This is a verse from Anant Akhado, to give a Ginanic perspective on this matter. Obviously Hazar Imam's Firmans override everything.

Aashaajee Treejee sandhyaa paachhalee jaanno
khatt ghaddee paramaanno jee
eh baaree sarag nee bhanneeye
leve Gur-ne haath.......................Haree anant..254

Oh Lord The third time of the command is at the end of the night
It occurs six ghadis before the dawn (each ghadi is about 22 minutes)
Understand it as the gateway to heaven
It is obtained with the help of the Guide(isme-azam)
Haree You are eternal...

[ShamsB]

Just an interesting tidbit...
There is only one place on the face of the planet which doesn't do bandagi from 4am to 5am but rather from 5 am to 6 amand that is in Kigoma, Tanzania, and this is with the farmans of MSMS since Kigoma is in the far west of Tanzania..

[yaaaahoooo]

Just an interesting tidbit...
There is only one place on the face of the planet which doesn't do bandagi from 4am to 5am but rather from 5 am to 6 amand that is in Kigoma, Tanzania, and this is with the farmans of MSMS since Kigoma is in the far west of Tanzania..

Anything to prove it substaintially or its authencity in the present living Imams time..........???????

Pls i m very interested shamsu

[ShamsB]

Just an interesting tidbit...
There is only one place on the face of the planet which doesn't do bandagi from 4am to 5am but rather from 5 am to 6 amand that is in Kigoma, Tanzania, and this is with the farmans of MSMS since Kigoma is in the far west of Tanzania..

Anything to prove it substaintially or its authencity in the present living Imams time..........???????

Pls i m very interested shamsu

Being from Tanzania..and having been to Kigoma a number of times and having friends there..it is still being practised from 5 am to 6 am.
Geographically Kigoma falls into the next time zone..IE. GMT+2...most of Tanzania is in GMT+3.