THE COMING OF QIYAMAT AND SOME SIGNS

[ZoB!]

THE COMING OF QIYAMAT AND SOME SIGNS

One day the entire world, humans, animals, Jinns, Angels, earth, skies and whatever that is in them will come to an end or perish. There will be nothing left except for Allah Ta'ala. This is known as the coming of Qiyamat. Before the coming of Qiyamat, there will be some signs that will appear, out of which, we write some of them here:

1. Khasf meaning that there will be three places where the earth will open up and men will be buried alive. One will be in the west, one in the east and one in Arabia.

2. The knowledge of religion will disappear, meaning the Ulema (scholars of religion) will be taken away.

3. There will be a large exploitation of illiteracy.

4. There will be great use of alcohol and adultery to such a shameful extent that it will be as common as donkeys eating grass.

5. There will be fewer males and more females. The ratio will be fifty women compared to one man.

6. There will be a lot of goods.

7. In Arabia, there will be green scenery such as green crops, parks and streams. The streams will open its treasures and there will be mountains of gold.

8. Men will listen to their women and not their parents. They will stay in close contact with their friends and stay away from their parents.

9. There will be great use of music.

10. People will curse their ancestors and speak ill of them.

11. The wrongdoers and non-capable will be made leaders.

12. Degraded people, who could not find cheap clothing, will own large mansions.

13. People will scream and shout in Mosques.

14. To stay in Islam will be so difficult as it is difficult to hold hot ash in the hand. Up till the extent that a person will go the cemetery and wish that they were in that grave.

15. There will be no quality in time. A year will be like a month. A month will be like a week. A week will be like a day. A day will be like as if an item has caught fire and quickly turns into ash, meaning time will go very fast.

16. Savage animals will speak to humans. The point of a whip and the heel of a shoe will speak and will inform you of what has happened in the home. In fact, a person's thigh will speak and inform him of things.

17. The sun will rise from the west. At this point, the doors of repentance will close. One can no longer bring faith into Islam.

18. Except for the big "Dajjal" (impostor), there will be thirty other impostors who will all claim to be Prophets whereas in fact Prophecy has finished. There will be no other Prophet after our Prophet Hazrat Muhammad Mustapha (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). Out of these impostors, there have already been some, for example, Mussailamma Kazzab, Taleeha Bin Khuwild, Asood Ansi, Mirza Ali Muhammad Baab, Mirza Ali Hussain Baha'ullah, Mirza Gulam Ahmed Qadyani, etc. and those that are left will certainly come.



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HOW THE DAJJAL WILL BE EXPOSED

1. Dajjal will be Kaanaa (one-eyed) person.

2. He will make Dawaa (claim) to be Allah Ta'ala.

3. On his head, the letters "K, F, R" (Kaaf, Feh, Reh) will be written, meaning "Kaafir" (infidel), and this will be read by all Muslims, but it will not be seen by the Kaafirs.

4. He will travel very fast. In forty days he will travel the entire world except Haramain Sharifain (the two Holy Mosques in Makkah and Madinah).

5. Within these forty days, the first day will be the length of one year, the second day will be the length of one month, the third will be the length of one week and the rest will each be twenty-four hours long.

6. His mischief will be very strong. He will have with him one garden and one place of fire. He will call these Jannat and Dozakh and wherever he goes he will take them with him. His Jannat will really be fire and his Dozakh will really be a place for rest. He will order people to believe him to be the lord. Whoever believes him as the lord, he will put them into his Jannat, and whoever rejects him, he will throw them into his Dozakh.

7. He will bring back to life the dead. He will make rainfall. He will command the land and it will grow crops. He will go into areas of desolation. The treasures of these areas will be with him like bees are with flowers. He will show all kinds of miracles like these, which really will be nothing but magic and illusions. In reality, there will be nothing with him and that is why when he disappears everything will disappear with him and people with have nothing.

8. When he will wish to enter Haramain Sharifain, the Angels will force his face to another direction.

9. He will have a whole army of Jews with him.

10. There will be three earthquakes in Madinatul Munawwarah. The reason for this is that there will be people there behaving like Muslims but they will be Kufaar and Munafiqeen and through fear of the earthquakes they will leave Madinatul Munawwarah and join the army of Dajjal.



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HAZRAT ‘ISA DESCENDING FROM THE SKY

1. After Dajjal travels the entire world, he will go to Shaam (Syria).

2. Hazrat 'Isa (alaihis salaam) at that time will descend from the sky on the East Minaret of the Jaame Masjid in Damascus during Suboh (morning).

3. The Iqaamat for Fajr Salaah would have been said.

4. Hazrat 'Isa (alaihis salaam) will command Hazrat Imam Mahdi to perform the Imaamat. Hazrat Imam Mahdi will lead the Jamaat in Salaah.

5. The cursed Dajjal will start melting from the beautiful fragrance given from Hazrat 'Isa’s (alaihis salaam) breath, just like salt starts melting with water. The fragrant smell of Hazrat 'Isa’s (alaihis salaam) breath will reach as far as one's sight can see.

6. Dajjal will be on the run. Hazrat 'Isa (alaihis salaam) will chase after him and throw a Nezah (spear) in Dajjal's back. Dajjal will be killed.

7. Then Hazrat 'Isa (alaihis salaam) will break the Salib (cross) and will kill the Khinzir (pig).

8. All the remaining Jews and Christians will bring Imaan in Hazrat 'Isa (alaihis salaam). At that time there will only be one religion in the entire world - the religion of Islam.

9. Hazrat 'Isa (alaihis salaam) will marry and will have children.

10. He will live in this world for forty years and then pass away. He would be buried in Madinatul Munawwarah, under the Green Dome next to the Rauzah-e-Anwar.



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THE APPEARANCE OF HAZRAT IMAAM MAHDI

1. Hazrath Imam Mahdi will be the descendant of Nabi Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). He would be Hassani Sayyid.

2. He would be an Imaam and Mujtahid (Jurist entitled to independent opinion) of his time.

3. The only place that will be left as Qiyamat draws near when infidelity will spread to the whole world will be Haramain Sharifain.

4. All the Awliya, Abdaal and pious Scholars will migrate to the Haramain Sharifain.

5. While the Abdaals will be performing Tawaaf of the Holy Kaaba in the blessed month of Ramadaan, Hazrath Imam Mahdi would be present. The Awliya would recognize him and would want to take Bai'at by him, but the Imam would refuse. From the Unseen, a Voice would say: "Haaza Khalifatullah al Mahid fasma'oolahu wa Ati oohu" meaning, "This is the Khalifah of Allah, Mahdi! Listen to him and obey him." Then, all will make Bai'at at his blessed hands.

6. Thereafter, Hazrath Imam Mahdi would take everyone with him to Shaam (Syria).



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THE APPEARANCE OF YAJOOZ - MAJOOZ (GOG AND MAGOG)

1. This is actually a tribe and they are from the children of Yafis Bin Nooh (alaihis salaam). They are very large in number.

2. They used to cause destruction on earth. They used to come out in spring and eat all the greenery.

3. They used to eat humans and also wild beasts, snakes and scorpions.

4. Hazrat Zulkarnain (alaihis salaam) made a wall of iron and enclosed them in it.

5. When Hazrath ‘Isa (alaihis salaam) kills Dajjal, then with the command of Allah Ta'ala, he would take all the Muslims on Koh-e-Thoor (Mount Sinai).

6. Then Yajooj Majooj will break the wall, come out and will create many fasaad (mischief) - robbing, looting, fighting, killing, etc.

7. With the Du'a of Hazrath 'Isa (alaihis salaam) Allah Ta'ala will cause a plague which will cause them to die. There will be no place left on the earth where their bodies will not be seen. Allah Ta'ala will send a bird which will clear their bodies and leave them where ever Allah Ta'ala commands.

8. Their spears and shields, etc. will take seven years to be burnt by the Muslims, after which Allah Ta'ala will send rain and that will leave the entire earth fresh again.

9. Thereafter, the earth and the skies will be commanded to open their treasures to the people of the earth. During this time, one entire congregation will be able to eat from one single pomegranate and ten people will be able to sit in the shade of the pomegranate peal.



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THE APPEARANCE OF THE DA'BATUL ARDH

1. This is a strange-looking animal that will come out from the mountain of Safa and will travel the whole world in great speed.

2. It will speak clear and fluent Arabic.

3. In it's hands, it will have the Asaa (stick) of Hazrat Moosa (alaihis salaam) and the ring of Hazrat Sulaiman (alaihis salaam).

4. With the stick, this animal will stamp the foreheads of all Muslims with a shining mark, and with the ring it will stamp the foreheads of all the Kaafirs with a dark black mark. At this point, all Muslims and Kaafirs will be clearly identified and recognised.

5. The Muslims will remain as Muslims and will pass away with Imaan, while the Kaafirs will remain as Kaafirs and pass away in that condition.



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WHO WILL QIYAMAT BE FOR?

1. After Hazrat ‘Isa (alaihis salaam) makes Wafaa'at (passes away), 40 years will remain for Qiyamat to occur.

2. A cool scented wind will blow which will pass from under the armpits of people.

3. As a result of this all Muslims will pass away and only the Kaafirs will remain alive.



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WHEN AND HOW WILL QIYAMAT COME?

1. Qiyamat will occur on the Kaafirs. In that 40 years, nobody would have children and nobody’s age will be less than 40 years.

2. There would be no one to take Allah's Name. The Kaafirs would be busy in whatever work they would be doing.

3. Allah Ta'ala will command Hazrat Israfeel (alaihis salaam) to blow the Sur. Certain people will be busy painting their walls, while others will be busy eating food, etc. (engrossed in worldly activities). The sound of the Horn will first of all be very faint, and then it will start getting sharper and sharper. People will listen to the sound with great concentration, and they will become unconscious and die.

4. Thereafter, the sky, the land, sea, mountain, the Sur and Hazrat Israfeel (alaihis salaam) and all the Angels would be Fanaa (destroyed). At that time no one would be in existence but Allah Ta'ala.

5. After this, when Allah Ta'ala wishes, He will bring back to life Hazrat Israfeel (alaihis salaam) and re-create the Sur, and order Hazrat Israfeel (alaihis salaam) to blow it again.

6. As soon as the Sur is blown, all the people from the beginning to the end, all the Angels, humans, Jinn and animals will become alive again.

7. The first to rise will be the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) with Hazrat Abu Bakr Siddique (radi Allahu anhu) on his right and Hazrat Umar-e-Farouk (radi Allahu anhu) on his left. With them will rise all the Muslims of Jannatul Baqi and Jannatul Ma'laa, the two blessed graveyards of Madina and Makkah.

8. People will start coming out of their graves and their "Aamal-Naama" or "Book of Deeds" will be given to them in their hands. They will all start going to the field of Hashr. They will then stand and wait for their judgement and fate. The ground will be made of copper. The sun will be glowing in full strength and will be just above people's heads. With the extreme heat, people's brains will start boiling and their tongues will become as dry as thorns and it will drop out of their mouths. People will perspire tremendously. Some will perspire till their ankles, some will perspire till their knees and some till their faces. They will suffer depending upon their deeds. The perspiration will also be giving off a foul stench.

9. There will be great delay just in this position. The day will be equivalent to fifty thousand years, and half of the time will go by in this situation.

10. On this Day of Judgement, no person will be prepared to assist the next. Parents will not even recognise their own children. On this day, each person will be for himself.

11. People will start looking for an intercessor who would be able to relieve them of this problem and so that a quick decision could be made. All the people will take advice and go to Hazrat Adam (alaihis salaam) first. He will say them to go to Hazrat Nooh (alaihis salaam), who will say them to go to Hazrat Ibrahim (alaihis salaam), who will say them to go to Hazrat Moosa (alaihis salaam), who will send everybody to Hazrat 'Isa (alaihis salaam). Hazrat 'Isa (alaihis salaam) will send everybody to our Master Hazrat Muhammad Mustapha (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam).

12. When the people go to our Huzoor (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) and request him to intercede, our beloved Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) will say, "I agree and am prepared to do this". He will then perform prostration in the Holy Court of Allah Ta'ala. Allah Ta'ala will say: "O Muhammad, lift your head, say and it will be listened, ask and it will be given, and perform intercession and it will be accepted".

13. Now the judgement and accounting will begin. The deeds will be weighed in the "Meezan-e-Amal" or "Scales of Deed". Your own hands, feet and other parts will give witness against you. The part of the ground where a particular action took place will also be prepared to give witness against you. There will be no friends or helpers. A father will not help his son, nor will a son help his father. All the deeds will be unveiled. All the deeds that have been done will be in front of you. You will not be able to deny a sin nor will you be able to find a reward.

13. In this very difficult and appalling situation, the Beloved of Allah Ta'ala, Hazrat Muhammad Mustapha (sallal laahu alaihi wassallam) will help. He will perform intercession for his believers.



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DIFFERENT FORMS OF INTERCESSION

1. The Holy Prophet's (sallal laahui alaihi wasallam) intercession will be in many different forms.

2. Many people, with the intercession of the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam), will go into Jannat (Paradise) without being judged.

3. Many people who should have been in Dozakh (Hell), will be saved from going into Dozakh with the assistance of the Holy Prophet's (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) intercession.

4. Those sinful Muslims who will have reached Dozakh will come back out with the assistance of the intercession of the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). The Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) will also perform intercession for the Jannatis and raise their grades.

5. The Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) has stated that seventy thousand people will enter Jannat without questioning and each one of the seventy thousand will take another seventy thousand with them, and the latter will each take three huge groups with them but the amount per group has not been specified.



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WHO ELSE WILL PERFORM INTERCESSION?

1. Except for the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam), the rest of the Prophets, the Sahabis (companions of the Holy Prophet sallal laahu alaihi wasallam), the Ulema (Islamic Scholars), the Awliya (Friends of Allah), the Shuhadaa (Martyrs), the Huffaz-e-Quran (one who has learnt the Quran off by heart and follows it's orders) and the Hujjaz (those who have had their pilgrimage accepted by Allah Ta'ala) will all also perform intercession.

2. People will remind their Ulema of the deeds that are in connection with them. If someone gave water to an Aalim to perform Wudhu (ablution) then he will remind him or of it and ask for intercession in return. They will then perform intercession for him.

3. This Day of Qiyamat will be equivalent to fifty thousand years long. It's difficulties will be too much to withstand, but it will be made so light for the Prophets, Awliya and the pious, just as the same time it takes to pray a Fardh Salaah. For some, it will be even less, equivalent to a blink of the eyelid the whole day will finish!

4. The biggest gift that Muslims will be given on that day will be seeing Allah Ta'ala Himself.



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BELIEFS CONCERNING QIYAMAT

1. Jannat (Paradise) and Dozakh (Hell) are facts and those who reject it are Kaafirs. Both Jannat and Dozakh have been made and are present at the moment. It is not so that they will be created after the Day of Resurrection.

2. Qiyamat (the Day of Destruction), Hashr (the Day of Resurrection), Sawaab (Reward), Azaab (Punishment), Jannat (Paradise) and Dozakh (Hell) are all true, as Muslims believe them. Therefore, those who believe them as facts but have a different definition for them, for example, to say that "reward" means to be happy when seeing your good deeds, and "sin" means to be sad when seeing your bad deeds, and "Hashr" will be only for souls and not the body, etc. then this is really rejecting all the above. Therefore, such persons are rejecters and those who are rejecters are Kaafirs.

3. Qiyamat will definitely happen and those who reject this belief are also Kaafirs.

4. Hashr will be for both the soul and the body. Those who say that only the souls will wake up and that the body will not come back to life are also Kaafirs.

5. Whichever soul belonged to whichever body will be reconnected. It is not true that a new body will be created and the soul will be put into that new body. If all the parts of the body after death have been spread everywhere or have become food for animals, Allah Ta'ala will join them again and it will come back alive on the Day of Resurrection.

6. "Hisaab" meaning Judgement or accounting of deeds is also a fact and those who reject this are also Kaafirs.

[amiralirawji]

. . . why worry about K A Y A M A T . . .

[Admin]

We will allow discussion on tis topic only if sources are given and people who do not believe in one person's sources or interpretations are not called kafir.

The thread will be close if we see one more offensive post here.

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[zubair_mahamood]

Dear Brother I have got min 100 Questions after reading your posting.... If u satisfies Admin then I will start asking my Questions.... I read this sings before and I also have source but I couldn't ask Questions! Now I got chance to…..

As An Ismaili I don't worry of Qayamat...... Person who has down anything wrong or thinks He is sinful need to Worry abt Qayamat!

[star_munir]

I think its not about to worry for Qayamat. Its just the signs of kaljug and the time when world will come to know as per hadiths I think so.
Many information like this is also in Ginans but there are differences too. The evil demon is Daet kalingo and it will be killed by Naklanki Avtar Imam of the time. There are many Ginans which deals with this topic.

[pannekoek]

<P>How does this apply to the Qiyamat experience of 1164 CE?</P>

[nashvelshi]

Interesting.

[star_munir]

I would like to share my views on the topic. In hadiths and Ginans there are many predictions of the events that are going to take place in future
As per hadiths also and as per Ginans also in kaljug there will be lots of Sins. The places of worship will becomes the places of Sins, there will be less attendence in Jamatkhana, there will be selfishness in hearts of people, rulers of the country will not be sincere but greedy and selfish etc etc
Then it comes topic of Daet kalingo or Dajjal. As per hadith a demon will come with name Dajjal. As per Ginans it is Daet Kalinga. Some of here may think the term Daet Kalingo or Dajjal as having symbolic meaning of communism or materialism or some may think it as it is mention in zaheri form.
However here I will compare what is there in hadiths and Ginans.
As per hadiths dajjal will come and he will claim that he is god. Between his two eyes , there would be word kafir in Arabic language and every muslim would be able to read it. Face color of dajjal is white,bright eyes and hairs are like green branches of tree. His eyse are like glasses.
His face is like kafir aza bin katan.
He will come and will capture the whole world in 40 days except Mecca and Madina.

Now as Per Ginans Daet Kalingo will be very powerful. His army will be unlimited. He will create lots of problems to true devotees. He will have 4 million followers. He will be able to do certain things like will change water into butter etc Whole world will be lost. Then Lord Narayan will reveal Himself .

There is lots of contradictions in "hadiths" that from where he will come. Different places are mentioned from which Dajjal will appear like river of Yemen, Kharasan etc . As per hadiths Jesus will appear in Yellow dress and he will kill dajjal. Many muslims believe that Jesus is alive. When people were about to kill him God sent Jesus to Sky while he was still alive. So he will appear again on earth to Kill the demon.

As per "Ginans" Daet kalingo will come from China. May be the ruler of china of that time will be Daet Kalingo and we can see that in short period of time China is becomming very powerful as it is predicted.
As per Jesus as per Farmans he has become one with God. I dont know much but as far as I have read Ginans about future I have not read that Jesus will kill the demon.
Imam will kill the demon. Also there is quote of Hazrat Ali ki "Isa bin Maryam is part of Me and I am part of Him. He is supreme word of God...."
So then Imam/Vishnu/Jesus will kill the demon..

[zubair_mahamood]

Ya Ali Madaad,

I would like to share my views on the topic. In hadiths and Ginans there are many predictions of the events that are going to take place in future
As per hadiths also and as per Ginans also in kaljug there will be lots of Sins. The places of worship will becomes the places of Sins, there will be less attendence in Jamatkhana, there will be selfishness in hearts of people, rulers of the country will not be sincere but greedy and selfish etc etc
Then it comes topic of Daet kalingo or Dajjal. As per hadith a demon will come with name Dajjal. As per Ginans it is Daet Kalinga. Some of here may think the term Daet Kalingo or Dajjal as having symbolic meaning of communism or materialism or some may think it as it is mention in zaheri form.
However here I will compare what is there in hadiths and Ginans.
As per hadiths dajjal will come and he will claim that he is god. Between his two eyes , there would be word kafir in Arabic language and every muslim would be able to read it. Face color of dajjal is white,bright eyes and hairs are like green branches of tree. His eyse are like glasses.
His face is like kafir aza bin katan.
He will come and will capture the whole world in 40 days except Mecca and Madina.

Now as Per Ginans Daet Kalingo will be very powerful. His army will be unlimited. He will create lots of problems to true devotees. He will have 4 million followers. He will be able to do certain things like will change water into butter etc Whole world will be lost. Then Lord Narayan will reveal Himself .

There is lots of contradictions in "hadiths" that from where he will come. Different places are mentioned from which Dajjal will appear like river of Yemen, Kharasan etc . As per hadiths Jesus will appear in Yellow dress and he will kill dajjal. Many muslims believe that Jesus is alive. When people were about to kill him God sent Jesus to Sky while he was still alive. So he will appear again on earth to Kill the demon.

As per "Ginans" Daet kalingo will come from China. May be the ruler of china of that time will be Daet Kalingo and we can see that in short period of time China is becomming very powerful as it is predicted.
As per Jesus as per Farmans he has become one with God. I dont know much but as far as I have read Ginans about future I have not read that Jesus will kill the demon.
Imam will kill the demon. Also there is quote of Hazrat Ali ki "Isa bin Maryam is part of Me and I am part of Him. He is supreme word of God...."
So then Imam/Vishnu/Jesus will kill the demon..

I think not only in kalyog but in every yog these sings can be easily seen…. There is a demon in every yog and in every human which is killed by Allah by one way or the other…. In every yog God manifested to kill this demon…. I think since the beginning the essence has not change…. The sings mention above have a deep meanings if one try to understand….

As for you I agree on what you’re saying. Brother if you look around you will sure find rest of the signs…. Our Imam is in a way killing the Demon of time by fighting against illiteracy, poverty, unemployment etc and bringing every one under a single umbrella! It’s an interesting topic I want to discuss with you but not online if you want send me PM.

I think no one individually or in group has right to say someone or a group is Kafir (disbeliever)…when we say this versa each time by heart a soul is Redirected by Prophetic Noor towards Reality and is shown true Pathto reach Allah, a disbeliever is Guided! And we say this versa three times a day just count how many souls are we realise if v say this by heart and complete devotion!

“O Messenger! Make known that which hath been revealed unto thee from thy Lord, for if thou do it not, thou wilt not have conveyed His message. Allah will protect thee from mankind”.

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I wanted to ask you many question but you seems to disappear

I think no one individually or in group has right to say someone or a group is Kafir (disbeliever)… it’s between The Creator (Allah) and His creation only Allah has right! I was reading this hadiths that “On the Day of Resurrection they will be a group of people who will be blessed with Janath and they would say Allah we didn’t do Ibadath for Jannath… we did it for your RAZA “Purpose” (I don’t know what’s raza means in English) then Allah say if so then go and jump in the fire of Dozakh and they will do as Allah says” I want to be among those people who love Allah! not love Him for Janath or Fear Him cause of Dozakh now tell me I reject Janath and Dozakh for Allah and His word so am I kafir…..

You wrote signs of Qiyamat did you read All Hadiths relating to this signs…. If you are Sunni then watch Dr Muhammad Tahir ul Qadri’s lecture relating to this present world and sings of Qiyamat…. He say he don’t see any sign of Qiyamat in near future as in the present situation Islamic society doesn’t have an Army and as per division in Islamic world there are no chance to see the Qiyamat in near future, its very interesting He uses Logics to Defend his statement…. And after reading Quran for many times I feel that whenever The Day of Judgement comes it does not only mean the Final day….

I think one can be kafir (disbeliever) but it doesn’t mean he will always be! Do watch the latest bollywood movie of Mukesh Bhatt “AWARAPAN” you will know Allah blesses anyone anything by His will! Awarapan is in available online, it’s in Hindi language and if you don’t understand Hindi then rent a DVD as I got Awarapan's DVD with sub titles in 14 European languages….. Even Pakistani sensor board has given green signal to realise this movie in Pakistan…. You will find Allah affair with his creation… you will find that the essence of faith didn’t change… they were problems (demon) 1400 years ago and still they are Demons today which are fought by Allah… above all you will find a Kafir (disbeliever as u say), a believer, A Dua for Allah’s blessing and how the kafir find Allah….! How he find freedom and reachs Allah

Typing signs of Qayamat is very easy but understand makes you know what are they!

Zubair Mahamood

[star_munir]

Mowla Ali Madad Zubair,

I agree that most of the signs that are mostly sins were not only in Kaliyug but in all jugs. There was war of mahabharat where there was lot of bloodshed in dwapuryug, in treta yug also there was war with Ravan.

What makes Kaliyun different is that ki sins may be same but there are more sins for instance one sign is that rulers will be unjust. There were unjust king in other yugs also but there were good king and rulers also like Shibi Raja, then there is example of Bharat and Lakshman. Is there any one present like them? I not mean to say all rulers are bad and every one is bad in kaljug where as all were pious in other but sins are more in kalyug then in any other yug...

As it is in verse 258 of Ginan Budh Avtar :During the Kaljug, the Spirit will be unstable There will be 97.5% of sins.

[star_munir]

There can be many interpretations of what Daet Kalingo or Dajjal can be. It may be taken as illiteracy, terrorism, materialism, communism or whatever one may think but it can be taken in literal sense also.

I think it as a person. Sure Imam is fighting battle against illiteracy etc but it can not be termed as Daet Kalingo. It is different and will come before the great war. Every created thing as end time and so there will be one day End of this world and what will happen during that time is explained in hadiths, Quran and Ginans. Evolution chart by Alwaez Abu Ali missionary explains the matter very well in my opinion.

Sure I would like to discuss about it through pms.

[zubair_mahamood]

There can be many interpretations of what Daet Kalingo or Dajjal can be. It may be taken as illiteracy, terrorism, materialism, communism or whatever one may think but it can be taken in literal sense also.

I think it as a person. Sure Imam is fighting battle against illiteracy etc but it can not be termed as Daet Kalingo. It is different and will come before the great war. Every created thing as end time and so there will be one day End of this world and what will happen during that time is explained in hadiths, Quran and Ginans. Evolution chart by Alwaez Abu Ali missionary explains the matter very well in my opinion.

Sure I would like to discuss about it through pms.

Ya Ali Madaad Munir

Sure Munir.... Watch the Movie Awarapan I hope it can form a platform from our discussion......

Zubair Mahamood

[ShamsB]

There can be many interpretations of what Daet Kalingo or Dajjal can be. It may be taken as illiteracy, terrorism, materialism, communism or whatever one may think but it can be taken in literal sense also.

I think it as a person. Sure Imam is fighting battle against illiteracy etc but it can not be termed as Daet Kalingo. It is different and will come before the great war. Every created thing as end time and so there will be one day End of this world and what will happen during that time is explained in hadiths, Quran and Ginans. Evolution chart by Alwaez Abu Ali missionary explains the matter very well in my opinion.

Sure I would like to discuss about it through pms.

I think what you refer to in this instance and what is different is as per the ginans - for the first time in the history of THIS creation, the Earth will be under the rule of ONE KING...that will the MAHDI - the Imam that will lead the forces of good against the forces of EVIL - the DAIYNT KALINGO - and as per the GINANS..the MAJORITY OF US ISMAILIES WILL SIDE WITH THE DAIYNT KALINGO - we will be so pulled away by the TIDE OF MATERIALISM that we will desert our IMAM.
(Refer to the Farman of MSMS to AdhLakhiani in the 1920's - where He first detailed out 313 MOMINS).

Shams

[zubair_mahamood]

There can be many interpretations of what Daet Kalingo or Dajjal can be. It may be taken as illiteracy, terrorism, materialism, communism or whatever one may think but it can be taken in literal sense also.

I think it as a person. Sure Imam is fighting battle against illiteracy etc but it can not be termed as Daet Kalingo. It is different and will come before the great war. Every created thing as end time and so there will be one day End of this world and what will happen during that time is explained in hadiths, Quran and Ginans. Evolution chart by Alwaez Abu Ali missionary explains the matter very well in my opinion.

Sure I would like to discuss about it through pms.

I think what you refer to in this instance and what is different is as per the ginans - for the first time in the history of THIS creation, the Earth will be under the rule of ONE KING...that will the MAHDI - the Imam that will lead the forces of good against the forces of EVIL - the DAIYNT KALINGO - and as per the GINANS..the MAJORITY OF US ISMAILIES WILL SIDE WITH THE DAIYNT KALINGO - we will be so pulled away by the TIDE OF MATERIALISM that we will desert our IMAM.
(Refer to the Farman of MSMS to AdhLakhiani in the 1920's - where He first detailed out 313 MOMINS).

Shams

Ya Ali Madaad Shams,

Thanks for adding your point! Actually its not that we have exact knowledge of every thing, we are working, and we are putting our points so that we can get something out of it….

When I read this Topic I was thinking about your other posting of reincarnation which is contrary… May be I am confuse can you help me!

I don’t have much knowledge of Ginnas can you share some information of Birth of Dajjal and whatever you know about Dajjal according to Ginnas!

Zubair Mahamood

[star_munir]

Ya Ali Madad Zubair and Shams,

I will try to watch movie awarapan soon.

As for Ginans about Dajjals it tells about Daet Kalingo or Dajjal that:

This Dayt Kalingo will be extremely strong His army will be unlimited
His army will be limitless His soldiers will be powerful
From China will come the Kalingo He will come to fight in Jampudip
The Kalingo will have 4 million followers They will make a lot of trouble
By concentration, he will go to the skies He will feed iron horses with sugar He will show the deceased mothers and fathers He will reverse the current of the river He will make mountains of food move forward He will change water into butter The Kalingo will accomplish such miracles And there, the whole world will be lost Only My followers will not be lost Those who will have recognized the Master of Truth.When the demon Kalingo will make such trouble The Lord Narayanr will reveal Himself certainly.
In the region of Multan, the armies will meet Step by step, they will move forward When The Lord Ali, riding on His Dul Dulwill fight against the satan, The head of the devil will fall down. Then the trident will turn round the 14th night And the head of the demon will fall. (Ginan Budh Avtar)

[star_munir]

In Ginan Partak Patra ne Syed Imam Shah says : " For the sake of annihilating the forces of evil and the hypocrates of the age, to purify the universe, the king of the three worlds has come."
"For the sake of true devotees, the Lord has arrived and has Himself taken up the manifestation to slay the evil demon and to purify and perfect the devotees."

Hazir Imam is fighting battle against demons like illiteracy, poverty etc.
But the comming of Dajjal or Daet Kalingo about which it is predicted it some thing else in my opinion. It is one of the sign when the end of world will be near and there will be great war.
After this great war Imam will marry Vishwa Kunwari i.e, will rule the entire world.

[ShamsB]

There can be many interpretations of what Daet Kalingo or Dajjal can be. It may be taken as illiteracy, terrorism, materialism, communism or whatever one may think but it can be taken in literal sense also.

I think it as a person. Sure Imam is fighting battle against illiteracy etc but it can not be termed as Daet Kalingo. It is different and will come before the great war. Every created thing as end time and so there will be one day End of this world and what will happen during that time is explained in hadiths, Quran and Ginans. Evolution chart by Alwaez Abu Ali missionary explains the matter very well in my opinion.

Sure I would like to discuss about it through pms.

I think what you refer to in this instance and what is different is as per the ginans - for the first time in the history of THIS creation, the Earth will be under the rule of ONE KING...that will the MAHDI - the Imam that will lead the forces of good against the forces of EVIL - the DAIYNT KALINGO - and as per the GINANS..the MAJORITY OF US ISMAILIES WILL SIDE WITH THE DAIYNT KALINGO - we will be so pulled away by the TIDE OF MATERIALISM that we will desert our IMAM.
(Refer to the Farman of MSMS to AdhLakhiani in the 1920's - where He first detailed out 313 MOMINS).

Shams

Ya Ali Madaad Shams,

Thanks for adding your point! Actually its not that we have exact knowledge of every thing, we are working, and we are putting our points so that we can get something out of it….

When I read this Topic I was thinking about your other posting of reincarnation which is contrary… May be I am confuse can you help me!

I don’t have much knowledge of Ginnas can you share some information of Birth of Dajjal and whatever you know about Dajjal according to Ginnas!

Zubair Mahamood

Zubair
Ya Ali Madad

We do have the knowledge, however it is all in ginans....and since we've all become Anglicized or Americanized...we don't know the language the ginans are written or even the Qu'ran for that matter, all this material is found in the Ginans and the Qu'ran...

Please let me know where you find it contrary between this posting and the posting on reincarnation....

Shams.
(NOT SHAMSU)

[zubair_mahamood]

I think what you refer to in this instance and what is different is as per the ginans - for the first time in the history of THIS creation, the Earth will be under the rule of ONE KING...that will the MAHDI - the Imam that will lead the forces of good against the forces of EVIL - the DAIYNT KALINGO - and as per the GINANS..the MAJORITY OF US ISMAILIES WILL SIDE WITH THE DAIYNT KALINGO - we will be so pulled away by the TIDE OF MATERIALISM that we will desert our IMAM.
(Refer to the Farman of MSMS to AdhLakhiani in the 1920's - where He first detailed out 313 MOMINS).

Shams

Ya Ali Madaad Shams,

Thanks for adding your point! Actually its not that we have exact knowledge of every thing, we are working, and we are putting our points so that we can get something out of it….

When I read this Topic I was thinking about your other posting of reincarnation which is contrary… May be I am confuse can you help me!

I don’t have much knowledge of Ginnas can you share some information of Birth of Dajjal and whatever you know about Dajjal according to Ginnas!

Zubair Mahamood

Zubair
Ya Ali Madad

We do have the knowledge, however it is all in ginans....and since we've all become Anglicized or Americanized...we don't know the language the ginans are written or even the Qu'ran for that matter, all this material is found in the Ginans and the Qu'ran...

Please let me know where you find it contrary between this posting and the posting on reincarnation....

Shams.
(NOT SHAMSU)

Mowla Ali Madaad Shams,

Seriously I don’t read the birth of Dhajal but read from where he will come. I noticed a common Demon since the creation of Adam till today, I think its same Demon which has shaped differently today….

I may be wrong or misunderstanding something here but as per reincarnation theory or all posting I read about it…. we are reborn until we get pure and once we are pure we will get merge with Allah…. then where is Physical Qayamat come in it…..?

Zubair Mahamood

[kmaherali]

This subject has been discussed extensively in this forum and if we are not careful we will have a lot of boring repetition. To access all the discussions please click on the 'Search' at the top of the page and then type 'Dajjal' or 'kalingo' or both. You will then get the list of all strings which discuss them.

If there are further issues then raise them in the strings already existing.

[ShamsB]

Ya Ali Madaad Shams,

Thanks for adding your point! Actually its not that we have exact knowledge of every thing, we are working, and we are putting our points so that we can get something out of it….

When I read this Topic I was thinking about your other posting of reincarnation which is contrary… May be I am confuse can you help me!

I don’t have much knowledge of Ginnas can you share some information of Birth of Dajjal and whatever you know about Dajjal according to Ginnas!

Zubair Mahamood

Zubair
Ya Ali Madad

We do have the knowledge, however it is all in ginans....and since we've all become Anglicized or Americanized...we don't know the language the ginans are written or even the Qu'ran for that matter, all this material is found in the Ginans and the Qu'ran...

Please let me know where you find it contrary between this posting and the posting on reincarnation....

Shams.
(NOT SHAMSU)

Mowla Ali Madaad Shams,

Seriously I don’t read the birth of Dhajal but read from where he will come. I noticed a common Demon since the creation of Adam till today, I think its same Demon which has shaped differently today….

I may be wrong or misunderstanding something here but as per reincarnation theory or all posting I read about it…. we are reborn until we get pure and once we are pure we will get merge with Allah…. then where is Physical Qayamat come in it…..?

Zubair Mahamood

no..this is not physical Qayamat..that is still 100,000+ years away. The earth still has 400,000+ years to go yet...before destruction....

What this refers to is Zahurat or Aswari, when the IMAM will become Khalifa over the world...just about 105 years from now (as per the ginans)..
The whole world will be ruled by One person..physically -
that will usher in a 100,000 year era of peace and tranquility...
"Lakh Warasa Rikhiyo Raaj Kare".
Not Qayamat..we will still be reincarnated and we will still have to work out our Karma.....not Qayamat...that as you refer to it is a long way to come..there is another interpretation of Qayamat but that is another discussion altogether.

Shams
Not Shamsu

[star_munir]

Following evolution chart will help further to understand it.

[star_munir]

There are many topics in which there was discussion on dajjal or daet Kalingo. Some of them are as follow:
The concept of Dajjal the impostor ( in Doctrines Section)
Daiet (in Doctrines Section)
Ghatpat no ubha Ginans and Imam
ni aswari and Kalingo ( in Ginans Section)
Hazar Imam is God then who is Satan (In Doctrines Section)
Daet Kalingo and Dajjal (In doctrines Section)

[star_munir]

There can be many interpretations of what Daet Kalingo or Dajjal can be. It may be taken as illiteracy, terrorism, materialism, communism or whatever one may think but it can be taken in literal sense also.

I think it as a person. Sure Imam is fighting battle against illiteracy etc but it can not be termed as Daet Kalingo. It is different and will come before the great war. Every created thing as end time and so there will be one day End of this world and what will happen during that time is explained in hadiths, Quran and Ginans. Evolution chart by Alwaez Abu Ali missionary explains the matter very well in my opinion.

Sure I would like to discuss about it through pms.

Ya Ali Madaad Munir

Sure Munir.... Watch the Movie Awarapan I hope it can form a platform from our discussion......

Zubair Mahamood

I dont know when I will get time to watch the movie. However I have read the review of it. You may discuss your points.

[zubair_mahamood]

I dont know when I will get time to watch the movie. However I have read the review of it. You may discuss your points.

Ya Ali MAdad Munir,

I will write u soon.....

Zubair Mahamood

[zubair_mahamood]

This subject has been discussed extensively in this forum and if we are not careful we will have a lot of boring repetition. To access all the discussions please click on the 'Search' at the top of the page and then type 'Dajjal' or 'kalingo' or both. You will then get the list of all strings which discuss them.

If there are further issues then raise them in the strings already existing.

Ya Ali Madaad Karim,

I think karim administration should come up with a feature or any alternative which can put together similar threads into one… I read other topics which interest me but when I ask question I didn’t get reply at the same time I got reply for same question in new posting I can give you an example of what I am saying… another reason for me asking questions in new thread is I think they r many users who r not browsing this site anymore or some users ids r deleted by admin like “Guest”

You’re on this site for long time and have excellent book knowledge may b that’s y u feel bore but I don’t feel so! I want to have knowledge of faith that’s the only thing I do… if you feel bore please don’t mention it and if you read similarly subject then direct us to previous thread please..!

Thanks
Zubair Mahamood

[zubair_mahamood]

no..this is not physical Qayamat..that is still 100,000+ years away. The earth still has 400,000+ years to go yet...before destruction....

What this refers to is Zahurat or Aswari, when the IMAM will become Khalifa over the world...just about 105 years from now (as per the ginans)..
The whole world will be ruled by One person..physically -
that will usher in a 100,000 year era of peace and tranquility...
"Lakh Warasa Rikhiyo Raaj Kare".
Not Qayamat..we will still be reincarnated and we will still have to work out our Karma.....not Qayamat...that as you refer to it is a long way to come..there is another interpretation of Qayamat but that is another discussion altogether.

Shams
Not Shamsu

Ya Ali Madaad Shams (Not Shamsu),

Do you mean to say we will do our karma till physical qayamat…. and if we are reborn 100 times till Physical Qayamat then when will be our account settled? We must be answerable to all our births on the Final day (which you call physical Qayamat...? How? At a time or one by one?

Please don’t mind my questions.. correct me if I m misunderstanding anything here brother…

Zubair Mahamood

[kmaherali]

You’re on this site for long time and have excellent book knowledge may b that’s y u feel bore but I don’t feel so! I want to have knowledge of faith that’s the only thing I do… if you feel bore please don’t mention it and if you read similarly subject then direct us to previous thread please..!

Thanks
Zubair Mahamood

Ya Ali Madad Zubair,

The idea behind having discussion about a subject under minimum threads is that it would be easy for users to access the material in future. Rather than having to go through several threads on one paticular subject, it is easier if there are a few to look at.

Also it is useful to get accustomed to the search tools which can provide extra 'power' and capacity to retrieve information.

[zubair_mahamood]

Ya Ali Madad Zubair,

The idea behind having discussion about a subject under minimum threads is that it would be easy for users to access the material in future. Rather than having to go through several threads on one paticular subject, it is easier if there are a few to look at.

Also it is useful to get accustomed to the search tools which can provide extra 'power' and capacity to retrieve information.

Ya Ali MAdaad Karim,

I do agree with you... Just wanted to tell u tht plz dont use bore or any other word so that ppl who want to ask question may not get Discourage... I personaly felt so many times before...

Zubair Mahamood

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[star_munir]

As for china, it is mentioned in Budh Avtar Ginan of Pir Sadardin and many other Ginans.