The concept of Dajjal(THE Impostor)

nowroozalisabiti · Post by **nowroozalisabiti** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 2:27 am

Ya Ali Maddad,
What is the consept of Dajjal( The impostor:Epithet of the Islamic Antichrist).
this question was asked in the site of www.shiachat.com
and wrote the answer according the Ismaili concept. They asked another question. I am pasting thier quote and if any one has information please answer.
QUOTE(petushki @ Sep 29 2006, 08:39 PM)
The appearance of dajjal is one of the signs of zuhoor. I guess dajjal has already come.... at present "America" satisfies the conditions for a "dajjal"...namely misleading, people will begin to believe that the whole universe is in his control, he will not enter mecca and medina, deceiver, liar etc.....

I quoted:
Dajjal is available in every era. Dajjal is a person who has one eye. So, Shari'a has two aspects; Zaher and Batin. If a person accepts the Zaher aspect of Shari'a and doesn’t consider the Batin; he/she is Dajjal. If a person considers the Batin aspect without considering the Zahir; he is Dajjal as well. So, a sage and knowledgeable person should consider both the Zaher and Batin aspects. IF a persons doesn't care for each of these aspects; he is blind by one eye and has called Dajjal
Then, the following quote was added:

How about money? like the US dollor, it has a pyramid with an eye on it. Dajjal??? It makes people sell their religion over it, buys people anything they want... has been in every era, and we are asked to be very carefull of it... if you look around in the world today everything is done for money... no body cares about the society or goodness.. its the money that counts
Later this quote was added:
According to most shia traditions the Dajjal is a government. According to most sunni traditions the Dajjal is a one eyed man who is on an Island and will be released when Imam Mahdi (ajf) comes. Many say the Dajjal is the Freemasons in which the American government is controlled by. If you look back in history every American Pres has been a Freemason. However, Allah knows best who the Dajjal truly is.

ShamsB · Post by **ShamsB** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 2:45 am

nowroozalisabiti wrote:Ya Ali Maddad,
What is the consept of Dajjal( The impostor:Epithet of the Islamic Antichrist). Many say the Dajjal is the Freemasons in which the American government is controlled by. If you look back in history every American Pres has been a Freemason. However, Allah knows best who the Dajjal truly is.

Ya Ali Madad.

If you check your history, you will find the above to be an untrue statement.
Not all American Presidents were Freemasons. Not only that ..freemasonry has been around for a few hundred years, if they really wanted to take over the world...they sure have been very slow and inept at doing it.

Shams

nowroozalisabiti · Post by **nowroozalisabiti** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:14 am

Dajjal is available in every era. Dajjal is a person who has one eye. So, Shari'a has two aspects; Zaher and Batin. If a person accepts the Zaher aspect of Shari'a and doesn’t consider the Batin; he/she is Dajjal. If a person considers the Batin aspect without considering the Zahir; he is Dajjal as well. So, a sage and knowledgeable person should consider both the Zaher and Batin aspects. IF a persons doesn't care for each of these aspects; he is blind by one eye and has called Dajjal

nowroozalisabiti · Post by **nowroozalisabiti** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:26 am

Pleases care about the quote. It was in the site www.shiachat.com like the following.
QUOTE(petushki @ Sep 29 2006, 08:39 PM)
The appearance of dajjal is one of the signs of zuhoor. I guess dajjal has already come.... at present "America" satisfies the conditions for a "dajjal"...namely misleading, people will begin to believe that the whole universe is in his control, he will not enter mecca and medina, deceiver, liar etc.....
I asnwered this quote as I mentioned in this quote, But after my quote this kind of questioned was asked: the follwoing is not mine it is their question in the mentioned site.

How about money? like the US dollor, it has a pyramid with an eye on it. Dajjal??? It makes people sell their religion over it, buys people anything they want... has been in every era, and we are asked to be very carefull of it... if you look around in the world today everything is done for money... no body cares about the society or goodness.. its the money that counts

Later this quote was added:

According to most shia traditions the Dajjal is a government. According to most sunni traditions the Dajjal is a one eyed man who is on an Island and will be released when Imam Mahdi (ajf) comes. Many say the Dajjal is the Freemasons in which the American government is controlled by. If you look back in history every American Pres has been a Freemason. However, Allah knows best who the Dajjal truly is.[/quote]
ShamsB Please don't attribute that quote to me. First you shoild read carefully what I wrote.

kmaherali · Post by **kmaherali** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 5:09 pm

nowroozalisabiti wrote:Ya Ali Maddad,

I quoted:
Dajjal is available in every era. Dajjal is a person who has one eye. So, Shari'a has two aspects; Zaher and Batin. If a person accepts the Zaher aspect of Shari'a and doesn’t consider the Batin; he/she is Dajjal. If a person considers the Batin aspect without considering the Zahir; he is Dajjal as well. So, a sage and knowledgeable person should consider both the Zaher and Batin aspects. IF a persons doesn't care for each of these aspects; he is blind by one eye and has called Dajjal

I agree with you. Dajjal is there all the time. It is the force that Allah places before us to make us stronger through overcoming it. There have been parallel discussions on this subject at:

Doctrines --> Daiet
Doctrines --> Daet Kalingo and Dajjal

You may want to go there.

nowroozalisabiti · Post by **nowroozalisabiti** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:23 am

There money means wealth. But we have two kinds of wealth; physically and spiritually (Or money and faith =secularism and spiritualism). In my opinion, Darwinism, Marxism and Communism are Dajjal. They had established dogma thoughts in the world and have misled a lot of people. Now, if a person renounces his/her religious faith and embraces the dogma thoughts; indeed he/she has sold his/her faith. So, Dajjal is the dogma faith and money is the transaction that you renounce your faith and embrace the dogma thoughts.

unnalhaq · Post by **unnalhaq** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:52 pm

nowroozalisabiti wrote:According to most sunni traditions the Dajjal is a one eyed man who is on an Island and will be released when Imam Mahdi (ajf) comes. Many say the Dajjal is the Freemasons in which the American government is controlled by. If you look back in history every American Pres has been a Freemason. However, Allah knows best who the Dajjal truly is.

There are some conflicts within the statements; I am not sure how much or rather little one knew when posting this. Sunni doctrine does not call for Mahdi. Just on the Day of Judgment everyone will be judged and all prophets will be resurrected on that day but no Messiah or Mahdi.
Just to point out one thing: The 48th Imam was also a Freemason.

Now, Dajjal: One could say that Dajjal is a very nice, compassionate, generous, humble and all the other good qualities but has a fundamental difference in value and belief system than there own.
Dajjal could be anti-Christ? If you look at how the anti-Christ has been defined as peace maker, bear of everything nice... My intention is not to be blasphemous (please don’t take it the wrong way) but hummm....?

nowroozalisabiti · Post by **nowroozalisabiti** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:20 am

[quote="unnalhaq"][quote="nowroozalisabiti"]According to most sunni traditions the Dajjal is a one eyed man who is on an Island and will be released when Imam Mahdi (ajf) comes. Many say the Dajjal is the Freemasons in which the American government is controlled by. If you look back in history every American Pres has been a Freemason. However, Allah knows best who the Dajjal truly is.[/quote]
There are some conflicts within the statements; I am not sure how much or rather little one knew when posting this. Sunni doctrine does not call for Mahdi. Just on the Day of Judgment everyone will be judged and all prophets will be resurrected on that day but no Messiah or Mahdi.
Just to point out one thing: The 48th Imam was also a Freemason.

Now, Dajjal: One could say that Dajjal is a very nice, compassionate, generous, humble and all the other good qualities but has a fundamental difference in value and belief system than there own.
Dajjal could be anti-Christ? If you look at how the anti-Christ has been defined as peace maker, bear of everything nice... My intention is not to be blasphemous (please don’t take it the wrong way) but hummm....?[/quote]
This was not my quote. It is just that I pasted it from the site of www.shiachat.com. You should go there and search for this topic. "A Question about Mahdi" and ask this member of the site.
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It is his/her view not my opinion. And ask about the Sunni doctrines about Mahdi. I know my self the Sunnis don't believe in Mahdi
But I myself saw some Sunnis they had talked about Mahdi. I think they were inculcated this idea via its repetition by Shi'a and imitate the saying of Shi'as

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