Wrong Hadiths

star_munir · Post by **star_munir** » Tue Aug 26, 2003 10:43 pm

Most of the Hadiths are wrong and are not the actual wordings of Nabi {PBUH}but people made themselves and attributed these Hadiths to Prophet Mohammad.Abu Hurayra, came from Yemen in the seventh year of Hijra and converted to Islam. He stayed in the company of the Prophet Muhammed less than two years. He narrated more than 5000 hadiths, actually 5374 hadiths, from this less than two years companySome of the Prophets companions (Sahaba) and Aysha, the Prophet's wife, accused him of being a liar, telling lies about the prophets just to make up hadiths and gain some status.He produced some of the most insulting hadiths to Muslim women, and hadiths that call for the killing of the dogs . If we apply the rigid criteria claimed to be used by the Scholars like Bukhary and Moslem, for accepting those who narrated hadiths, Abu Hurayra will be the first one to fail the test and his hadiths will be the first to be counted among the fabrications. Bukhary identified himself with the Abbasyeen and politically was against the Talibeen (followers of Ali Ibn Abu-Talib), he gave in his book many pages to the hadiths of Abdullah Ibn Abbas, the grandfather of the Abbasyeens with whom Bukhary identified. Here we witness politics influencing what hadiths to report and what to omit (those praising Ali Ibn Abu Talib). Some of the Hadiths narrated by Ibn Abbas contradict the laws of the Quran , e.g. the laws of inheritance.personal feelings, political alliance and hatred to people like Ali Ibn Abu Talib affected his choice of what hadiths to list in his book and what hadiths to refuse. He cared less about the content of the hadiths itself . He listed many hadiths that contradict the Quran, contradict other hadiths , contradict common sense, insult God, insult the Prophet Muhammed, insult the Prophet's wives and his family . The position that Bukhary took regarding Ali Ibn-Abu Talib Vs his position towards Mu'aawyiah is but a reflection of the political corruption of Bukhary and his bias in listing the Hadiths that put down Ali while making of his ardent enemy Mu'aawyiah, a pure and righteous man despite his known

corruption and defiance of the simple Islamic laws. Bukhary narrated Many Hadiths in his book that the public call "Sahih" (Authentic) for people who were considered liars, corrupted and untrustworthy. Muslim Scholars who came after him were afraid to expose the truth and the shortcoming of Bukhary and other scholars of Hadiths and Sunna like him. As a simple example, in the famous book "Al-Mustadrek", the author states that Bukhary listed Hadiths taken from 434 persons who were not accepted by Moslem for his book "Sahih Moslem" as good trustworthy people. On the other hand Moslem accepted for his book 625 persons who narrated Hadiths ,who were refused by Bukhary. The Sahih books of Bukhary and Moslem for example are full of shameful hadiths that insult God, the Prophet Muhammed, the submitters (Muslims in Arabic), Submission (Islam in Arabic) and the intelligence of any NORMAL human being.

EXAMPLE In Bukhary's Sahih, section of "Ghussull" (Washing after intercourse), the Hadith tells that the prophet Muhammed was to have intercourse with his wives, 11 of them, within one hour, day or night. And that he was given the sexual power of 30 men.

In Bukhary's Sahih, vol. 4 and 7, a Hadith about a magic spill casted on the prophet Muhammed until he did not know what he is doing even to the point that he would think he had intercourse with his wives when he in reality did not. Our Hadithist made the Prophet absent minded even for a minute ?!! What a shame. Should we respect them and accept their SAHIH ??!!! NO

God descends to the lower Heaven every night.

There will not be on the surface of Earth after one hundred years, one newborn (or created) human being." God put His feet in the fire of Hell so that it would become full.

God shows his leg to the believers to recognize Him.

God laughs and wonders.

If a monkey, a black dog or a woman passes infront of a praying person, his prayer is nullified."

Abu Hurayra said, the messenger of God said; "If it was not for the Jews (Children of Israel),the food would have never deteriorated and the meat would have never turned bad (rot, decay or spoil). & If it was not for EVE, no WOMAN would have ever cheated on her husband."

Sahih Bukhary;

Abu Bakara said the messenger of God said;

"Any community whose leader is a woman will never succeed"

You shall kill all black DOGS, because they are devils." Sahih Bukhary and Sahih Moslem;

Abu Hurayra said the prophet said;

"When someone wakes up from sleep, he/she should clean his/her nasopharynx (back of the throat), (by taking the water in the mouth, gurgle with it and bringing it through the nose) three times, because Satan spends the night in the nasopharynx (back of the throat

Omran Ibn Hussein, said the prophet said; "I looked at Heaven and found that the majority of its dwellers are the poor, and looked at Hell and found the majority of its dwellers are the WOMEN.

Sahih Moslem;

Abu Hurayra said, the messenger of God said; " If any of you eats, you should eat with your right hand, and drink with the right hand, because Satan eats and drinks with his left hand
If a woman dies while her husband was pleased with her, she will enter Paradise

If a man orders a woman to lift a mountain she should be ready to lift it."

A woman should not fast except with her husband's permission

Burda said that his father said the messenger of God said; " On the Last Day, some Muslims will come with sins as much as the mountains, but God will forgive them for these sins and put these sins on the Jews and the Christians."

Every time a Muslim man dies, God puts in Hell fire a Jew or a Christian."

Abu Hurayra said, the messenger of God said; " Cursed are the Jews and the Christians, they made out of their prophet's tombs masajids (places
for worship

atlantanismaili · Post by **atlantanismaili** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 7:55 pm

can you give sources?

star_munir · Post by **star_munir** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 9:26 pm

What kind of sources you want?research or read book of hadiths and you will find yourself so many hadiths which you can not believe the wordings of Hazrat Mohammad [PBUH]

AqeelKhan · Post by **AqeelKhan** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 10:53 pm

Assalamualaikum Can you ppl tell me things about the Ismaili "faith".. what do you believe.. and please do not insult Imam Abu Hurayrah r.a (radi'Allahu Anhu). Why do you not differentiate Allah and your mowlana?.. Why was there Allah/Mowlana Imam ? How do you define Islam to the Ismaili faith? How do you follow Islam (i.e As the ways of the Prophet Muhammad s.a.w?..)?.. I've read in one of your articles that the Qur'an was changed or something like that... Regarding that, it is written in the Qur'an that Allah s.a.w will save it from being distorted. Wassalam Ignorance is Weakness, Self-Inflicted Ignorance is Suicide

shamsu · Post by **shamsu** » Sun Oct 26, 2003 12:05 am

AqeelKhan wrote:Assalamualaikum Can you ppl tell me things about the Ismaili "faith".. what do you believe.. and please do not insult Imam Abu Hurayrah r.a (radi'Allahu Anhu). Why do you not differentiate Allah and your mowlana?.. Why was there Allah/Mowlana Imam ? How do you define Islam to the Ismaili faith? How do you follow Islam (i.e As the ways of the Prophet Muhammad s.a.w?..)?.. I've read in one of your articles that the Qur'an was changed or something like that... Regarding that, it is written in the Qur'an that Allah s.a.w will save it from being distorted. Wassalam Ignorance is Weakness, Self-Inflicted Ignorance is Suicide

You mention here that following Islam is to follow it as the ways of the Prophet S.A.W.

Where in the quran does it mention that to be the way?

If I remember correctly It clearly states that there are as many ways as there are hearts.

The quran itself has portions that were eventually updated with other ayats. If my memory serves me right it had to do with being intoxicated.

Does it not stand to reason that if things can change in 23 years they can certainly change in 1400 and you need a live divinely appointed guide to interpret the faith.

The Holy Quran mentions the face of Allah, the Hand of Allah.

If Baiyat on the hand of the Prophet is actually on the hand of Allah how come Rasulillah S.A.W. made everyone do baiyat on the hand of Mowla Aly WHILE HE THE PROPHET S.A.W. WAS STILL ALIVE.

Think, Reflect with your intellectual eye my man. Try to see with your heart. The Quran mentions peoples hearts becoming blind. Are you one with a blind heart or a seeing Heart? Ask yourself this question everyday.

Shams

star_munir · Post by **star_munir** » Sun Oct 26, 2003 12:46 am

Wa Alikum Salam

There are many hadiths which are not correct which are contrary to evn Quran exampleThere is a Hadith (Sahih Buklhari Volume 1, Book 9, Number 490) which states that if a woman or a dog passes in front of you while you are praying, your prayer will not make it to heaven

Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 540 says plainly: "Allah's Apostle ordered that the dogs should be killed."

Of course when it comes to killing animals, there are different laws for different species. Dogs are to be killed instantly, however snakes are to first get verbal warning if he comes to your house. If the snake comes a second time, kill him (Sunan Abu Dawud Book 41, Number 5240). The interesting thing about such a Hadith is the fact that snakes cannot hear. It is bad enough to assume that any animal would understand you giving a verbal warning, but to assume that an animal that is deaf will understand you is ridiculous.

So as a muslim We belive in Quran and Prophet Mohammad as a true prophet so we can not accept these hadiths ar the words of Holy Prophet [PBUH]

Ismailism:

Ismailism is pure Islam. we Belive in one God, Prophet Mohammad and Quran. As a shia we believe Hazrat Ali as first Imam and present ImaKarim Aga Khan is our 49 Imam. Imam is aal-e-rasool and we believe that wold can not exist without living Imam and until Qayamat there will be Imam and it is in authentic hadith.
If you want to know abot concept of Imamat there are many books written by non ismailis about Quranic verses about Ali and Imamat and there are thousands of hadiths about Imamat one should think over it.
Further I will advise you to read ISLAM THE RELIGION OF MY ANCESTORS. It is in book Memoirs of Aga Khan written by Imam Sultan Mohammad Shah.

star_munir · Post by **star_munir** » Sun Oct 26, 2003 12:47 am

Wa Alikum Salam

There are many hadiths which are not correct which are contrary to evn Quran exampleThere is a Hadith (Sahih Buklhari Volume 1, Book 9, Number 490) which states that if a woman or a dog passes in front of you while you are praying, your prayer will not make it to heaven

Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 540 says plainly: "Allah's Apostle ordered that the dogs should be killed."

Of course when it comes to killing animals, there are different laws for different species. Dogs are to be killed instantly, however snakes are to first get verbal warning if he comes to your house. If the snake comes a second time, kill him (Sunan Abu Dawud Book 41, Number 5240). The interesting thing about such a Hadith is the fact that snakes cannot hear. It is bad enough to assume that any animal would understand you giving a verbal warning, but to assume that an animal that is deaf will understand you is ridiculous.

So as a muslim We belive in Quran and Prophet Mohammad as a true prophet so we can not accept these hadiths ar the words of Holy Prophet [PBUH]

Ismailism:

Ismailism is pure Islam. we Belive in one God, Prophet Mohammad and Quran. As a shia we believe Hazrat Ali as first Imam and present ImaKarim Aga Khan is our 49 Imam. Imam is aal-e-rasool and we believe that wold can not exist without living Imam and until Qayamat there will be Imam and it is in authentic hadith.
If you want to know abot concept of Imamat there are many books written by non ismailis about Quranic verses about Ali and Imamat and there are thousands of hadiths about Imamat one should think over it.
Further I will advise you to read ISLAM THE RELIGION OF MY ANCESTORS. It is in book Memoirs of Aga Khan written by Imam Sultan Mohammad Shah.

star_munir · Post by **star_munir** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 9:15 pm

According to Abu Ali Missionary Abu Hurayra accepted Islam three years before the death of Prophet Mohammad [PBUH] .He was not a rich but poor. He narrated a large number of hadiths which are mostly wrong.
Abu Ali gave example of one such hadith that aacording to Abu Hurrayra Prophet Mohammad [PBUH] said that at night sun goes to the throne of God and ask pesmission from Allah so that he may rise again and morning sun rise from the antlers of devil.
This is scientifically incorrect therefore we can never believe it as true words of Prophet as Prophet is Noor of Allah.

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