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by Valani
Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:18 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Explaination needed of Koran Ayat.
Replies: 649
Views: 157831

Dear brother Nuseri: Somehow I could not stop myself from posting again on this thread, I have been following this thread closely though. I must applaud your table of spiritual process, as explained below: My table is a s below: Ignoranace at level 1 is zero% knowledge of truth and Gnosis/tawhid/mar...
by Valani
Thu Oct 30, 2014 11:47 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Explaination needed of Koran Ayat.
Replies: 649
Views: 157831

Brothers tret, Fayyaz and all who are with us on this forum : Althought I wanted to continue my discussion and had a little chance to collect a few references to validate my view point, but Undesirably, this discussion is apprently being perceived as a debate or as a contest which must endup with a...
by Valani
Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:51 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Explaination needed of Koran Ayat.
Replies: 649
Views: 157831

Brothers Fayyaz006 and tret : I believe I have a lot to say in response to your posts but somehow I am not finding enough time, I will get back soon inshAllah. Brother Zznoor : I have not received your PM please use my email address to send me the message i.e. svalani@hotmail.com Brother Admin : I ...
by Valani
Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:59 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Explaination needed of Koran Ayat.
Replies: 649
Views: 157831

Fayyaz006 wrote : Valani we are arguing about how we percieve God. As a scientist I understand some of the laws of "Nature" (God). Ie Gravity, Em forces etc etc. Point i am trying to make is every thing that you see or perceive with your senses is bound by some "Natural Law" or ...
by Valani
Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:33 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Explaination needed of Koran Ayat.
Replies: 649
Views: 157831

Brother tret : Luckily my search took me to this page which apprently have that letter of Aga Khan III - hand written, presented to the court in testimony of Khoja Case (it was not Haji Bibi case), but unfortunately i am not able to download the content you might be: http://ismaili.net/heritage/nod...
by Valani
Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:09 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Explaination needed of Koran Ayat.
Replies: 649
Views: 157831

Fayyaz006 wrote : Now Valani which one of us is correct, maybe we both are. That is one of the positive aspects of Ismailism, in the same space we both have different interpretation of the same verse. Brother Fayyaz006 I am glad that you agreed that I might be right too! I leave this topic here. Fa...
by Valani
Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:04 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Explaination needed of Koran Ayat.
Replies: 649
Views: 157831

Nuseri Wrote : Ya Ali Madad. Here the statement of equating Man as God noting less or more. the word Man is a masculine gender. If there are levels of Baatin n Noorani didar beyond zahiri didar at tariqat level. How can a simple man give didar n appear in flesh n body to give didaar. It is GOD only...
by Valani
Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:44 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Explaination needed of Koran Ayat.
Replies: 649
Views: 157831

Sorry for being a bit late in my responses! Fayyaz006 Wrote : Valani in Ismailism, it is my belief that the Imam has the Quran, and therefore spiritually is the Quran. The book it self as compiled in the 7th century is static and will remain that way for the foreseeable future. I doubt that book wri...
by Valani
Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:50 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Explaination needed of Koran Ayat.
Replies: 649
Views: 157831

Fayyaz006 : 1) Is this not true that Imam is considered the true interpreter of Quran (faith in your case)? But you are talking about diversity of interpretation, does that mean that every Ismaili has the ‘right’ to interpret the faith according to his/her own intellect? Does the interpretation not...
by Valani
Tue Oct 21, 2014 6:35 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Explaination needed of Koran Ayat.
Replies: 649
Views: 157831

Dear All From what I have read from all of you (principally following Ismaili beliefs) is that many of you differ from each others on basic issues that pertain to the faith (Imaan) is that true? If this is so, don't you think a need to have a clear statement from the guide the Imam himself on all th...
by Valani
Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:50 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Explaination needed of Koran Ayat.
Replies: 649
Views: 157831

Thank you for your reply Tret! I am glad to see your answers, although they do not cover the question in its entirety, in my opinion. However, it does reflect the point of view of Ismaili order specifically. I feel all the questions I have asked are somehow interrelated and unless they all are answe...
by Valani
Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:29 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Explaination needed of Koran Ayat.
Replies: 649
Views: 157831

Thank you Kmaherali for your reply and useful link! I appreciate your immediate response and have read the whole article you have provided link off. The article is a nice one and deals with a whole lot of things quite nicely, but am afraid it dealt with only one of my questions and that too partiall...
by Valani
Tue Oct 14, 2014 1:45 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Explaination needed of Koran Ayat.
Replies: 649
Views: 157831

I have joined this forum after a pretty long time! I feel i am again interested in learning and sharing my own learning. BTW the more I tried to learn, the more I realized that i do not know anything, as Allah SWT has said in glorious Quran Allah knows - you don’t know. Here i pose a few questions f...
by Valani
Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:30 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Sahabae Karam and their conspiracies
Replies: 266
Views: 118971

I know i am deviating from the subject, but feel perhaps this is the forum where I should seek clarification/ guidance. My question is mainly o­n "kmeheraly" statement somewhere in this threat regarding "U lil Amr i Minkum" . The popular translation of this phrase is "Those ...
by Valani
Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:02 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Sahabae Karam and their conspiracies
Replies: 266
Views: 118971

<P>I have been following this threat and appreciate the amount of information provided by both the parties. I agree with those who said that the difference&nbsp;is all about interpretation of various verses of Quran. My heart however feels comfortable with that Quran can not be tempered with as ...